help with this over hopped beer!

[yewtah-brewha]

Used brew target to get my slightly hoppy recipe, all was going okay, then I noticed the crystal 10 I had was 1 lb not 2 like I inputed into the recipe.

transfered to secondary 2 days ago and the hops were so over powering I felt like I was biting into a grapefruit.

going by the recipe I ended up with BT says it is extra hoppy and they are right, It says if I had the extra lb of crstal that it would be slightly hoppy.

My question is this: If I brew up a lb of crystal and rack the beer onto that what would happen to the beer? I cant imagine that 1 lb less would have made this so hoppy!

Any comments/suggestions are appreciated!

 

[agrazela]

Super-hoppy? I'm not seeing the problem...

Personally I'd just leave it be, some of the hoppiness will fade with time.

 

[rorypayne]

It will fade with time just bottle it and taste periodically until you like it.

 

[yewtah-brewha]

Thanks, I have a 4 gallon and 5.5 gallon batch at 6.0% I will be kegging one and bottleing the other, Input appreciated

 

[yewtah-brewha]

Super-hoppy? I'm not seeing the problem...

Personally I'd just leave it be, some of the hoppiness will fade with time.

well. not a big ipa fan, but 2 weeks ago brother in law brought a few ipa's over, the hop profile was strong, but it was delicious, on new years i bought a 12 pack of ipa thinking it would be the same, it was way less hoppy, but still okay,

The beer i brewed was way more hoppy than the high powered stuff I had at first, so It took me by surprise, It was so acidic I felt little bumps forming on my tounge! I think time will be this ones friend!

 

[thadius856]

Over hopped beer?

Solution is to bring me a keg of it, and I'll send you home with a keg of my cream ale.

Little long of a drive for you to come out here to CA, but trust me, it's totally worth it (for me).

 

[loucurr]

Over hopped beer?

Solution is to bring me a keg of it, and I'll send you home with a keg of my cream ale.

Little long of a drive for you to come out here to CA, but trust me, it's totally worth it (for me).

+1 on bring me the beer!

 

[ledhead72486]

Yeah it's personal taste... You can bring me your hoppy beer too! But really the hops will fade and if you let them sit it may get to a point where it suits you. If not, you may just start loving hoppy beer from drinking all your hard work!

 

[Pasta]

I'd just like to let everyone know that I'd be more than happy to dispose of any beer you accidentally overhopped. I'll even provide you with clean empty bottles in trade.

 

[thadius856]

I'd just like to let everyone know that I'd be more than happy to dispose of any beer you accidentally overhopped. I'll even provide you with clean empty bottles in trade.

I will bring a portable CO2 tank and cobra tap.

You just have to hold the tap open. I'll lay on the floor below it.

 

[yewtah-brewha]

I will bring a portable CO2 tank and cobra tap.

You just have to hold the tap open. I'll lay on the floor below it.

Too crazy! ha ha! I just transfered to a corny and it has dropped a little, but still has some kick! ebay hops! who would have ever thought!

 

[thadius856]

Too crazy! ha ha! I just transfered to a corny and it has dropped a little, but still has some kick! ebay hops! who would have ever thought!

Iunno. I buy every year from a guy who sells on eBay because he doesn't seem to want to bother with setting up a website.

He buys from the same farms as the others, packs them, then sells them.

Was your seller Hopheaven by chance?

 

[yewtah-brewha]

Iunno. I buy every year from a guy who sells on eBay because he doesn't seem to want to bother with setting up a website.

He buys from the same farms as the others, packs them, then sells them.

Was your seller Hopheaven by chance?

No, the seller was de_smet_hops they were 13.99 for 1 lb (cascade) including shipping. less than a dollar an ounce I couldnt pass it up,

It gave me a new perspective on hops, I have never had the potency from hops like this. I have been useing hop union and sometimes cant even taste the hops. I wonder if I even added enough after the finished product.

the last bag of HU I opened and weighed it it was only .75 of an ounce. I paid 3.00 for these hops that I cant even taste in the beer, thats when I decided to try ebay. So glad I did!

 

[thadius856]

You've discovered hops by the pound, not eBay savings.

http://www.yakimavalleyhops.com/product_p/hopscascade1.htm
http://www.hopsdirect.com/cascausp1/
http://www.fiftypoundsack.com/products/Cascade-Pellets.html

etc etc

Looks like I paid $11.95/lb for Cascade this year, plus $16 shipping for 12 lbs.

Here's my 2013 season hops order: https://www.dropbox.com/s/t7y45n7gk... HB 8.13.13 - thadius856 AT gmail dot com.xls

 

[yewtah-brewha]

You've discovered hops by the pound, not eBay savings.

http://www.yakimavalleyhops.com/product_p/hopscascade1.htm
http://www.hopsdirect.com/cascausp1/
http://www.fiftypoundsack.com/products/Cascade-Pellets.html

etc etc

Looks like I paid $11.95/lb for Cascade this year, plus $16 shipping for 12 lbs.

Here's my 2013 season hops order: https://www.dropbox.com/s/t7y45n7gk... HB 8.13.13 - thadius856 AT gmail dot com.xls

ya I looked into them, for the small amount I needed it was the cheapest route, I tried to get a bulk buy group going, but that was harder than I thought.

I did realize that the shipping for 1 lb vs 12 lbs wasn't much different, I just wont use that much this year. Ive been researching hop quality and storage and found that these guys were selling 2012 crop vs. 2013. (again freshness)

I will buy from ebay when I finish up these cascades, probably in march. I also bought some willamette from a local lhbs for a reasonable 1.75 per ounce. I can reason with that price with the small scale brews I do.

It looks like you do large scale? do you sell your beer?

 

[thadius856]

No, I don't sell beer. I do like hop-forward beers like IPAs, and they tend to use several multiples of the quantity of hops that the more balanced beers do. 12# in a year isn't really that much if you do a lot of hoppy beers and make 10 gallon batches.

Do you have BeerSmith? There's a hop freshness calculator in the Tools section. Play with it.

Long story short, the easiest method is to freeze, as cold as you can, in an oxygen-impermeable container.

I place 1# of pellets into a quart mason jar, label the lid, and freeze at -15F to -20F. In that container and at that temperature, hops will lose 3-5% of their alpha acids a year. I expect anything I put in today to last 5 years minimum.

This isn't true for HopUnion baggies. Sure, they're kevlar and oxygen impermeable, but temperature is a MUCH larger factor than permeability of the container. Expect to lose 30-50% AA per year with those.

Buy in bulk, as early in the year as you can (harvest is Oct/Nov, starts shipping Nov/Dec), jar, and freeze as cold as you can.

When planning a year's worth, consider:

How many IPA hops do I need? (e.g., Cascade) $$
How many noble hops do I need? (e.g., Tettnang) $
How many neutral bittering hops do I need? (e.g., Columbus/Tomahawk) $
How many specialty hops do I need? (e.g., Simcoe/Nelson Sauvin/Citra) $$$

 

[yewtah-brewha]

No, I don't sell beer. I do like hop-forward beers like IPAs, and they tend to use several multiples of the quantity of hops that the more balanced beers do. 12# in a year isn't really that much if you do a lot of hoppy beers and make 10 gallon batches.

Do you have BeerSmith? There's a hop freshness calculator in the Tools section. Play with it.

Long story short, the easiest method is to freeze, as cold as you can, in an oxygen-impermeable container.

I place 1# of pellets into a quart mason jar, label the lid, and freeze at -15F to -20F. In that container and at that temperature, hops will lose 3-5% of their alpha acids a year. I expect anything I put in today to last 5 years minimum.

Great info, I was going to do the same with mason jars, would you suggest vacume sealing the jars?

theres a guy on youtube that uses a brake like pump and special lid to seal them, just a thought,

This isn't true for HopUnion baggies. Sure, they're kevlar and oxygen impermeable, but temperature is a MUCH larger factor than permeability of the container. Expect to lose 30-50% AA per year with those.

Buy in bulk, as early in the year as you can (harvest is Oct/Nov, starts shipping Nov/Dec), jar, and freeze as cold as you can.

When planning a year's worth, consider:

How many IPA hops do I need? (e.g., Cascade) $$
How many noble hops do I need? (e.g., Tettnang) $
How many neutral bittering hops do I need? (e.g., Columbus/Tomahawk) $
How many specialty hops do I need? (e.g., Simcoe/Nelson Sauvin/Citra) $$$

Good info, thanks. will plan this out, I started with 10 gallon batches recently dont have beer smith, been using brew target, will check out BS when I get the op.

youtube has a guy vacume sealing mason jars with a brake pump, would you recomend before freezing?