Help with Seirra Nevada Flipside clone

[BeirKaiser]

I did all my homework about a year ago and want to make a clone or something close to Seirra Nevada's Red Rye IPA. The issue being I only have the equipment to do extract batches and everyone has told me, or read, that the rye has to be mashed. So is it possible to mash the Rye first and then proceed with the rest of the brewing?

Listed in the recipe:

Malt Bill:
Extract:
3.3lb PLE (8L)
2.5lb LDM (8L)
Mash:
3.0lb Rye malt (5L)
Steep:
0.25lb Crystal (60L)
0.25lb chocolate (350L)
0.25lb pale wheat (1.5L)

Hop Bill (all pellets)
30min:
1oz Bravo
15min:
1/3oz citra
1/3oz centennial
1/3oz simcone

Yeast:
One Pack WY1056 American Ale or WL001 California Ale

Thank you for any advance

 

[saltymirv]

http://www.sierranevada.com/beer/variety-packs/flipside-red-ipa

According to their website it doesn't have any rye, however you could add it if you wanted to. Several homebrew stores sell rye extract which would save you from mashing. You could buy some wheat DME instead of mashing just .25lb of wheat malt. Otherwise I think you're on the right track

Target an OG of 1.060

I'd up your finishing hops for sure, about 3oz total should do it and I'd keep them for later in the boil. Then don't forget to dry hop with another few ounces as well

 

[beernutz]

Saltymirv beat me to it wrt the Rye--there isn't any. This is the information from the SN website fwiw:
Fireside IPA OVERVIEW

ALCOHOL CONTENT 6.2% by volume
BEGINNING GRAVITY 14.0° plato
ENDING GRAVITY 2.8° plato
BITTERNESS UNITS 60
INGREDIENTS

YEAST Ale yeast
BITTERING HOPS Magnum
FINISHING HOPS Citra, Simcoe, Centennial
MALTS Two-row Pale, Wheat, Caramel, Chocolate

I came up with this all grain recipe which I thought was pretty close to Flipside:

BeerSmith 2 Recipe Printout - http://www.beersmith.com
Recipe: Beer 101 - Flipside IPA clone (SN website)
Style: American IPA
TYPE: All Grain
Finished kegs 5/12/2015

Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 12.68 gal
Post Boil Volume: 11.18 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 10.50 gal
Bottling Volume: 10.00 gal
Estimated OG: 1.059 SG
Estimated Color: 13.9 SRM
Estimated IBU: 66.5 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 76.8 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
14 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 62.2 %
6 lbs White Wheat Malt (2.4 SRM) Grain 2 26.7 %
1 lbs Barley, Flaked (1.7 SRM) Grain 3 4.4 %
1 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 Grain 4 4.4 %
8.0 oz Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 5 2.2 %
1.00 oz Citra [14.50 %] - Boil 45.0 min Hop 6 23.4 IBUs
1.00 oz Magnum [12.60 %] - Boil 30.0 min Hop 7 17.1 IBUs
1.00 oz Simcoe [12.30 %] - Boil 30.0 min Hop 8 16.6 IBUs
2.00 Items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 mins) Fining 9 -
1.00 oz Centennial [10.70 %] - Boil 15.0 Hop 10 9.3 IBUs
1.0 pkg Nottingham Yeast (Lallemand #-) [ Yeast 11 -


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Light Body, No Mash Out
Total Grain Weight: 22 lbs 8.0 oz
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Name Description Step Temper Step Time
Mash In Add 7.3 gal of water at 164.9 F 150.0 F 30 min

Sparge: Fly sparge with 8.35 gal water at 168.0 F

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[BeirKaiser]

Thank for the help

I was just going to steep the wheat instead of mash

And I must have confused my beers. Perhaps I was thinking of the Ruthless and mixed it up with my Flipside research and came up with something else

Plus my local shop usually has everything I need but they don't carry a dry or liquid extract of Rye. Would have to order it online. Didn't even know they made it, plus the two apps I've been using for calculations don't even list it as an option