Petekiteworld
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Zackcavaliet, can you post your recipe?
Just read that the brewery is halting retail sales and tours at the cannery. That'll make it even more difficult to find.
http://www.alchemistbeer.com/a-difficult-decision/
I guess that's possible, but they aren't adding any new retail customers or capacity, so it probably means that it'll only help slightly at most.Huh, as a Vermonter, maybe this will make it easier for me to find. Woo hoo!
I guess that's possible, but they aren't adding any new retail customers or capacity, so it probably means that it'll only help slightly at most.
The nice thing about the cannery sales was that you were pretty much guaranteed a case if you showed up. Now I expect that it'll be rationed to 4 or 8 cans at a time and you'll never know if it's in stock at a retail store.
Hopefully the brewery can cap the price that retailers can charge, or it could cause a hefty price increase (gouging.)
Retailers will be receiving much more beer so you should be able to access Heady easily. You should be able to purchase a full case from our larger retailers. As always, we do our best to encourage suggested retail pricing- the price should be in the $13-$15.
Kimmich's response on his website's comments page:
They were friendly and very busy when I was theretagz said:They were pretty unfriendly when I stopped by this summer. Sounds like they got sick of dealing with customers. Personally, there are many other dipas that I would choose over heady, it's just a matter of getting them fresh.
They were pretty unfriendly when I stopped by this summer. Sounds like they got sick of dealing with customers. Personally, there are many other dipas that I would choose over heady, it's just a matter of getting them fresh.
Seems like out of staters are going to burn up a lot more gas driving to all these retail outlets now. This is kinda opposite of their "green" philosophy.
This is true, but it doesn't list the availability or quantity limits. If you drive 7 hours and 400 miles you want to get more than 1-2 4 packs to make the trip worthwhile.
There's definitely a strong localvore movement in Vermont. I'd imagine a lot of locals are tired of out-of-staters buying up a large portion the beer by the case, especially when I imagine Vermonters could probably easily drink all of the beer they're producing.
VT's economy depends largely on out-of-staters, does it not? I've never gotten the impression that I was unwelcome there. If anything I felt that locals found it amusing that people would travel so far for beer. It is just beer, after all.
I'd imagine so, with the ski resorts and stuff. I think the difference comes when it becomes harder for other Vermonters to find the beer at the retail locations, because so many people from out of state are buying it by the case. We'd much rather have you going to our bars/restaurants and staying in our hotels, while having some of the good local beer.
EDIT: And, certainly we're not unwelcoming. It's more of a respect for the brewery's decision, valuing local accounts over those buying by the case, especially when there's enough demand to not need those case buyers.
Wow...so in order to enjoy your precious heady we should drive/fly across the country to your state, sit in your bar and sleep in your hotel? Wow...this must be some amazing beer! I guess I'll find out. My buddy is shipping me one this weekend.
/sarcasm
m3n00b said:Wow...so in order to enjoy your precious heady we should drive/fly across the country to your state, sit in your bar and sleep in your hotel? Wow...this must be some amazing beer! I guess I'll find out. My buddy is shipping me one this weekend.
paulster2626 said:I've been there many times - never had a problem with availability at both the cannery and the few retail stores I've bothered to look for it in. They will start something up soon - they've said an announcement will be made shortly and to "stay tuned". I'm going to guess they'll keep the brewery operating as-is (possibly with some expansion), but will also open a second location to make and sell more product. That's just a guess though.
The Ben and Jerry's HQ is just down the road. I can't imagine traffic is the issue.
I'd imagine so, with the ski resorts and stuff. I think the difference comes when it becomes harder for other Vermonters to find the beer at the retail locations, because so many people from out of state are buying it by the case. We'd much rather have you going to our bars/restaurants and staying in our hotels, while having some of the good local beer.
EDIT: And, certainly we're not unwelcoming. It's more of a respect for the brewery's decision, valuing local accounts over those buying by the case, especially when there's enough demand to not need those case buyers.
Seems like it is a neighbor issue that involves some traffic, noise and other issues.
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/vt-beers-fans-are-trouble-neighbors
""We've had complaints from neighbors," Jen Kimmich said. "We would have had to fight to keep on going. ... We decided to close down before it turns into a large legal battle.""
“We wanted all those people that we saw everyday, that pub was a big part of their lives, we wanted to keep that,” Kimmich said. “We hated to see that disappear. We felt an obligation to give local people some place to come in.”
Do you really think I'd drive all that way just for a case of beer? I go to VT two weeks/year - once in the summer, once in the winter. Nearly every time I go I seem to drag someone new with me to show them around. I stay in hotels, and I eat in restaurants. I find these statements implying you are more deserving of this product and you command "respect" from people who don't live in VT kind of condescending, and the opposite of the welcoming and friendly attitude I've encountered with Vermonters over the years. You sure you're not from out-of-state?
The current issue of Zymurgy noted a county government study re tourism (pg5). The craft beverage industry in the county where Russian River Brewing Co is located (Sonoma) contributed $123 million to the local economy in 2012; and this year's PtYounger release contributed $2.35 million to Sonoma County during the two weeks -- 65% of the attendees were from out of town beer tourists.
Alchemy can probably show a similar impact from their popularity and hopefully get a bigger sign or do something at a different location so this one neighbor won't make complaints about her driveway.
Considering the best way to get Heady yeast is to harvest from the actual product, discussion regarding availability and possible changes of said product is quite relevant when discussing how to produce an identical beverage at home.
Plenty of reasons to go to Vermont still.
- You can still buy Heady Topper. Instead of 30% of their production being shipped out to stores and bars, there is now 100%.
- Hill Farmstead still exists.
- Lawson's Finest still exists. Also, you have never been able to buy beer there - you have to time a visit to the Warren GS juuuust right.
- Switchback,Shed,many brewpubs,lots of beer still flowing (like wine, and women insinctively flocking like the salmon of Capistrano)
- The Green Mountains ain't going anywhere.
- They still have delicious cows, available for everyone!
I've always found Heady at stores. The guy in Stowe usually has some, as does some store in Waitsfield that I can't remember the name of.
You forgot to mention that this is the state in which Super Troopers takes place.
...is that they tend to dislike everyone with the assumption that no one else cares about whay they do the same way they do, not even their neighbors or parents...
Seems like it is a neighbor issue that involves some traffic, noise and other issues.
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/vt-beers-fans-are-trouble-neighbors
""We've had complaints from neighbors," Jen Kimmich said. "We would have had to fight to keep on going. ... We decided to close down before it turns into a large legal battle.""
The worst part of that movie was that they were chugging fake fake syrup. At least they could have put their fake syrup (that's easier to chug) in the containers you'd normally get the real syrup in.
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