Texconsinite
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Wow, that sounds interesting. Whats the parentage of your unilateral?
No idea. I just hope it's not the one that had the raspberry aroma from last year, will have to take some seeds if that's the case.
Visited the 2016 babies.
These were all seeds a few months ago - and - only about a foot tall back in June. They've all now topped the 16' trellis!
The bird netting seems to have worked wonderfully. Though, I doubt that I'll be able to remove the bines and reuse it next season, which is a shame.
I also spotted a few males. They were bagged, but I suspect it is too late. Looks like I am going to have a 4th generation of seeds to germinate next spring!
How were you able to follow the tops back down to the corresponding plants below? It looks like it was pretty crowded.
Has anyone had any luck using seeds ordered online? I'm assuming they're mostly ornamental seeds. Is an ornamental male worth using? I'm trying to find the best place to get seeds. I've heard of commercial leaf hops with occasional seeds, but I'm not sure it's worth the cost to go that route.
I've found three groups of wild hops here in the past year, none of which contained any seeds. Most likely cluster escaped from farms many years ago.
Hop breeding update!
Not bad considering that all the young rhizomes were ripped out and transplanted last spring.
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Do you mean the 'crowns' were ripped out or you made cuttings from them and then transplanted?
Also, a breeding update:
Even after all the conversation on this thread regarding the non-viability of using pollen from hermaphroditic hops... I decided to try again. Pollen was collected from several monoecious plants. Most of it produced no results. However, I seemed to have somehow gotten lucky.
One batch of the pollen fertilized seeds on several plants. After a long stratification, some of the seeds are indeed starting to sprout!
I started a new page on my site for updates: http://gabriel.nagmay.com/2014/02/hop-breeding/
inducing male flowers on female plants will yield diploid pollen, instead of haploid...and most such seeds will be triploids.
I was told you can have seeds on whole leaf hops, so I decided to give it a try. I ordered almost 30 1oz bags (all different kinds). Didn't open them all, yet, but some had a ton of seeds, many had very few. I didn't try germinating them yet, but I would expect to start doing that within a month or so. I have half a dozen that have been growing for about half a year, but I reckon I should be growing a few hundreds this winter.
Has anyone tried cold soaking to germinate? I have done this with apple seeds before and had around 80% germinate. I'm wondering if it might work for hops as well.
I guess it would be the same as stratifying. Pretty much submerge seeds under water and keep in fridge. This water is changed every day to simulate snow melt.
Pretty much submerge seeds under water and keep in fridge.
Can you describe what you mean by "cold soaking".
In practice, I have had the best results stratifying hop seeds in damp perlite for 3+ months at refrigerator temps.
Perlite or vermiculite? Perlite doesn't hold much water.
How do you recover the seeds, without losing a bunch?
I've grown a few hop plants from seeds without stratification, but... very low germination, like 5%. I'm getting ready to start a new lot, but I'll stratify them this time.
Interesting. What are the advantages of this over, say, paper towers? Less (or more) chance to damage rootlets of early germinating seeds?
I've always tested germination (of my non-hop seeds) with paper towers, though I'm not sure I ever grew anything that needed stratification before.
Perlite or vermiculite? Perlite doesn't hold much water.
Yeah, paper towels are readily available, but horrible for germinating seeds. The tiny, hairy roots are easily damaged as you pull them from the towel. Even with vermiculite, the roots will quickly clamp on to a clump of the volcanic stones - no problem, just plant the entire thing.What are the advantages of this over, say, paper towers?
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