So I started my E-HERMS system today. I am basing it off of the electric brewery control panel however I am making a few minor adjustments. First I am leaving out the timer. Reasoning.....Cost. I live in Canada and I am looking at $200+ just to add a timer that I can use a kitchen timer for. Second I am also going to make this a direct fired unit along with the HERMS. I would like the power to ramp up if need be so I can do step mashes. Not to mention as I said above I am brewing in Canada. Even in my garage in the winter I will be in bellow freezing temps with a heater so maybe get up to 5-10C in there while the heats cranked. Worried I will lose a ton of heat. I plan to insulate my recirc lines as well but was worried the HERMS alone wont keep up to the heat loss in the winter. I am thinking about using 2 3000 watt 240 volt hot water heaters. One in the HLT and one in the mash tun. I am going to start by running them both off of the same PID and see how this works (mashtun PID as I am more worried about a constant mash temp then HLT temp). I am thinking that my mash temp should be around the same as my HLT temp and if not then I will end up adding an extra SSR and relay and running them off the same PID to seperate ones. This was an after thought after I had ordered all the materials or I think I woul dhave done this to start. We will see how it works though. Anyone have any thoughts on this?