For probably my last 5 batches or so, I've only been taking a pre-boil gravity reading. As long as I'm not adding DME and hit my volume into the fermenter (which is the case 90% of the time) I don't see the point. I used to take both, but the numbers always came out, save MAYBE a point. Any thoughts on this? The way I see it, it's another few ounces of beer in my glass. :rockin: