I think the one tablet per gallon is for wine. To dechlorinate water for brewing beer, I've always heard one tablet is enough for 20 gallons.
1 tablet per 20 gallons, not 1 tablet per gallon.are you guys still adding 1 tablet per gallon even if its to dechlorinate strike/sparge water?
That depends on the beers you brew and the composition of the water you're using now.Are the benefits of water profiles and adjustments worth my time, or will I even notice the extra effort in my beers?
Okay, this may be heresy and y'all may run me out of town, but...I dechlorinate and dechloramine my brewing water with aquarium water conditioner drops...never had a problem.
Do you know what's in it? Maybe, it's the same as Campden tablets?
The label says sodium thiosulfate and EDTA terrasodium salt. Six drops per gallon to break the chloramine bond and remove chlorine. Costs about $3.00 per bottle at PetSmart and lasts 25 or so batches.
Again, it may not be "best practice", but it has always worked for me )and the fish).
I'm no chemist, but I would guess it's safe since fish are very sensitive to water conditions. I had a marine tank years ago and if the water isn't right, they start to die.
The label says sodium thiosulfate and EDTA terrasodium salt. Six drops per gallon to break the chloramine bond and remove chlorine. Costs about $3.00 per bottle at PetSmart and lasts 25 or so batches.
Again, it may not be "best practice", but it has always worked for me (and the fish).
I'm no chemist, but I would guess it's safe since fish are very sensitive to water conditions. I had a marine tank years ago and if the water isn't right, they start to die.
Chemistry is the weakest part of my brewing skillset. The bottle is labeled "Tap Water Conditioner". It says safe for fresh water and
salt water. I have a tank full of African Chiclids (Bi-Color 500s) that are now in their 8th generation using this water treatment. I have to assume it is okay for beer too.
Keep in mind that most chemicals sold for the aquarium industry are usually not labeled for use on food fish or fish that may enter the food chain. I personally wouldn't use them for anything I'm going to consume.
Rip said:.
Please don't use Fish Tank DeChlor products in your Beer!
Sodium thiosulfate is maybe a mostly harmless chemical in itself (MDMS isn't too bad) BUT... and this is the big one: it's frequently manufactured from industrial leftovers produced from the manufacture of Sulfur based Dye (did I mention: Industrial waste???).
Have you asked your fish how they feel? :rockin:
Mine would never answer my questions, I think they are a little slow now. Could it be the DeChlor? I don't want to find out!
Campden tablets are cheap: can be found for ~10$ per pound.
To Treat drinking water for Chlorine or Chloramine:
Use 1/4 Campden tablet per 5gallons H20.
That is: 1 tablet treats 20 gallons
You'll find some posts that indicate other quantities... trust me, it's 1/4 tablet per 5 gal. There was much confusion over this in the recent past due to some bad source material (can't recall the source). Using campden tabs in Wine is a different story btw.
- M
p.s. No fish were harmed in the making of this public service announcement. Have you called your mom lately?
Rip said:Sorry if I came off like firemarshall bill there.
You might have a valid point... only a few drops are used. I noticed you went to the meta anyhow tho. Yeah me too.
"Try my IIPA, It has a few drops of industrial byproduct in it... nothing to worry about."
Mike
The aquarium dechlorinator I use, Sodium thiosulfate, is Na2S2O3.
Campden tablets are sodium metabisulfate which is Na2S2O5.
How much difference do two oxygen atoms make?
I have no idea about the example cited here, but it's important to remember that subtle differences can take something from harmless to poisonous.
For example, Carbon Dioxide is CO2 and Carbon Monoxide with one less oyxgen atom is CO. CO is harmful while CO2 isn't. The only difference is one oxygen molecule.
Kal
Another thing to keep in my mind is that many of the aquarium conditioners also contain oils (I think aloe vera) to coat and aid the fish. Not sure what affect this would have on the beer - possibly hurt head retention. If you have used it and not seen a problem then must be too small an amount to cause trouble.
A little chemistry help here please...
The aquarium dechlorinator I use, Sodium thiosulfate, is Na2S2O3.
Campden tablets are sodium metabisulfate which is Na2S2O5.
How much difference do two oxygen atoms make?
The link provided by mvolz says the two are "closely related compounds...in terms of usage".
I have no idea about the example cited here, but it's important to remember that subtle differences can take something from harmless to poisonous.
For example, Carbon Dioxide is CO2 and Carbon Monoxide with one less oyxgen atom is CO. CO is harmful while CO2 isn't. The only difference is one oxygen molecule.
Kal
It's not the answer you want, but there so cheap just buy the homebrew shop ones.
Good point.CO2 isn't harmful? Have you tried breathing that instead of O2?
Good point.
Semantics, but from what I understand, C02 isn't actually harmful to us (we breath it out all the time and consequently also breath in a bunch too)... If you don't get enough O2, then harmful to us. (CO on the other hard is actually harmful to breath even if we get enough O2).
Kal
You don't even need to let it sit for a while. According to Palmer, the reaction between the campden tablet and chlorine/chloramine is nearly instantaneous. I just crush up the tablet between two spoons and dissolve it in my brew water as it is heating. Easy and works great.
Good point.
Semantics, but from what I understand, C02 isn't actually harmful to us (we breath it out all the time and consequently also breath in a bunch too)... If you don't get enough O2, then harmful to us. (CO on the other hard is actually harmful to breath even if we get enough O2).
Kal
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