Glad you're looking at it that way and not trying to piece something together.
Which hopefully will help you avoid getting ripped off. Like I said way upthread, this isn't a very complicated job. Shouldn't break the bank even in NYC.
exactly i think actually two outlets.
That makes it a bit more complicated. There's no space for another 220V breaker in that panel, so you can't have two dedicated 15 or 20 amp circuits. I guess a higher amp circuit with two outlets would be a possibility, but that's beyond my experience (either DIY or hiring a pro).
Sure is. Every home has 15A or 20A branch circuits and 15 or 20A receptacles. Sometimes many of them.
Well yeah, but I just wasn't sure that code was the same for 240V circuits. I don't think I've ever actually laid eyes on a 240V circuit with multiple outlets.
That’s only because very few things use 240 in the US and not 120. Most things can use both. The only countertop appliances I can think of is an espresso machine or a European electric kettle.
Agreed. In my kitchen I had to have a minimum amount of receptacles per square foot of counter space. The amount of counter space also informed how many circuits I needed (two), which means I have about half a dozen outlets on each branch.
Yeah, in the US and Canada households anyway, 240V circuits are each typically a dedicated circuit for a large appliance e.g. electric stove, water heater, central AC, electric clothes dryer, etc.
That's kinda what I was thinking. OTOH, a 120V/20A branch circuit with a half a dozen 15A outlets isn't sized for a 90 amp draw.
My comments were not meant to the OP, just a general response about multiple "welders".
Yup, I agree. Most of these threads digress a little and I'm at fault too. Good to point it out.
I doubt the minimum charge is below $100 anywhere in the U.S.
For what it's evolved into, absolutely. Should have been well under when it was just relocating a single outlet on an exiting circuit.
I have gotten free estimates in both New Jersey and Virginia within the past year. Is that not a thing in some places anymore?
Sure. But minimum work charge...
A $100 minimum work charge is pretty much irrelevant for a job that's easily going to run over $500. Without a minimum people who can't do anything themselves would never be able to get an electrician to come to their house to replace a bad switch.
Fishing the wire is the hardest part.
The actual skilled electrician work takes about 20 minutes. I had to get a contractor to move a dedicated 20A outlet in my brother's condo when we put in a new kitchen (the HOA basically doesn't allow you to DIY anything except paint and flooring). Cost was "only" $550, but they didn't replace the breaker, which I gotta say surprised me a little. A new circuit would have to comply with current code, right? Which means AFCI and GFCI pretty much anywhere in the house in NY. So the circuit breaker is going to run you over $200 all by itself.
Yeah, that's why I was surprised that they did not install a new AFCI/GFCI combo breaker. The extra couple hundred bucks would have pissed me off, but when you're putting in a new kitchen it's pretty insignificant. The contractor pulled the permit and the work was inspected and approved when completed. So I figure it must be compliant with whatever the local authority is currently enforcing. Original plan was to literally just move the receptacle keeping the existing wire since the new location shortened the run, but it turned out it was aluminum so they replaced it. I assumed that once they did that it became a new circuit and would have to comply with the 2020 NEC (work was completed before the 2023 was published), but apparently not.
