I'm noticing that the IPAs I dry hopped with Belma don't seem to have as good a shelf-life as other IPAs. They taste fine but the hop aroma decays pretty quickly. I like them a lot when they are fresh, after a couple of months, not so much.
chiteface said:I only did one, but I really felt like it got better with age.
Crappy. They are ok for aroma hops. Not good for bittering or flavorHow was the Belma IPA? I have been thinking of doing a series of single hop IPAs myself and have read some great things about belma versions.
justkev52 said:Crappy. They are ok for aroma hops. Not good for bittering or flavor
I have tried it several times and determined I do not like the fruity flavor it imparts. It seems to taste more like a old/bruised fruit flavor. I do not think I am going to use it anymore.
eulipion2 said:I'd say this is a very controversial hop! Severely style- and combo-dependent. I've had awesome luck with it in saisons (Belma/Strisselspalt is amazing!) and a cream ale. I've got it going in an IPA with Bravo and Mosaic. We'll see how it turns out in a couple weeks.
Depending on how you used it. I would toss it out there that it will be lost completely with the bravo and especially the mosaic. Mosaic is too powerful to let the belma through.
The Bravo was only for bittering. Mosaic and Belma were flavor and aroma. I'm shooting for a Mosaic-centric beer, but I'm hoping the Belma will round it out a bit. Never used Mosaic before, but Belma and I are bff's. :rockin:
Eh, that's okay. As my sig suggests, it's a clean-out-the-freezer deal. Even if it only gives a little mouthfeel (it should, based on my experience so far), that's fine by me. If I get nothing out of it, that's cool too, as long as the beer's good. Had to make room for the 2013 harvest.Well, having used both.. Belma will be no where to be found, honestly if you used Mosaic and Belma together late in the boil.
Mosaic will overpower Belma 3X's over. Belma, as you know, is subtle. Lends a fruity note, but nothing is as fruity as sweet as Mosaic. It's as powerful as Citra, and will toss a fruity berry, dank earthy note that will be nothing but mosaic in the boil. If I use Belma's it can't go up against anything more than a low earthy hop, or something noble to give a rounded fruit character. Anything "american hop" or any of the "C hops" and belma gets pushed so far back you can't even pick it out. It's impossible.
eulipion2 said:Eh, that's okay. As my sig suggests, it's a clean-out-the-freezer deal. Even if it only gives a little mouthfeel (it should, based on my experience so far), that's fine by me. If I get nothing out of it, that's cool too, as long as the beer's good. Had to make room for the 2013 harvest.
Sounds like it is made for Saisons, which happens to be a-ok with this brewer. I just won a pound from HD, along with a shirt, hat and some Belma scented soap. I bet my wife will like the soap! Later, dudes.You've got a heavy malt bomb on your hands there!! MOPA, crystal & biscuit wowzerz!! You should go overboard with hopping to battle your malts & try to balance things. I would recommend multiple hop additions toward the end (<15 min) & big dry hopping. With this grain bill I don't think its worth even attempting "hoppy". Go another direction & try belma again:
8 lbs pilsner
1 lb honey malt
1 oz belma @60 min
2 oz belma @15 min
4 oz belma @0 min
*this will help put belma on the hop stage & shine through with slightly sweet malt bill but still balanced.
Just my $.02
Has anyone tried Belma in a blonde ale or something light bodied? I apologize but sifting 59 pages is too much for me. Im interested but seeing most negative responses are from ipa's. I know galena isnt a good hop for flavor but did it anyways and I didnt think it was terribly bad.
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Has anyone tried Belma in a blonde ale or something light bodied? I apologize but sifting 59 pages is too much for me. Im interested but seeing most negative responses are from ipa's. I know galena isnt a good hop for flavor but did it anyways and I didnt think it was terribly bad.
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$12 for shipping made me a bit bitter [...]
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Made the purchase today. Now to build a couple recipes. $12 for shipping made me a bit bitter but I see it still being cheaper than going to lhbc and getting a lb. of any other hop.
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When I bought mine, I sent an email out to the club and put together a 16 pound order. It made shipping much more reasonable.
Agreed. There must be cheaper ways to ship a single pound of hops. Or maybe that's the point: people see that shipping doesn't increase very much with the addition of a second (or third) pound, so they see greater value in ordering more. Brilliant!
When I bought them, it was a flat rate, so a few buddies Putin and we got 12 pounds shipped for $10
Skipping over the Putin thing ...80-something cents for a pound of hops makes me wonder if there's actually any value there...
Cheers!
That's just the shipping. And in the right recipe, Belma is mighty tasty.
That's just the shipping. And in the right recipe, Belma is mighty tasty.
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