tigmaster
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No work today and i would love to give out some good info....any takers?:rockin:
here took me a min to find it but check this machine out....
http://www.longevity-inc.com/productdetail_229/Multi-Purpose-Units/WeldAll-200PI.php
you might have to type it in manully but this is a tig welder a stick welder a plasma cutter all in one it goes for around 1600...i have a miller 150 stl....and if i would have seen this machine before i bought my tig for 900 i would have seriously considered this unit...a littlle 25 pound bottle or argon which is good for all tig welding and ur rocking
You don't need a TIG to weld stainless. Airgas tells me that you can buy a different gas mixture and stainless wire to weld stainless with a MIG. I'm going to try this hopefully this weekend. If it doesn't work, I can always use acetylene and rod.
Moose
You don't need a TIG to weld stainless. Airgas tells me that you can buy a different gas mixture and stainless wire to weld stainless with a MIG. I'm going to try this hopefully this weekend. If it doesn't work, I can always use acetylene and rod.
Moose
You don't need a TIG to weld stainless. Airgas tells me that you can buy a different gas mixture and stainless wire to weld stainless with a MIG. I'm going to try this hopefully this weekend. If it doesn't work, I can always use acetylene and rod.
Moose
Airgas is right. But you cannot weld SS with an acetylene torch! Mig or Tig or Arc, thats it.
OP, the "Cheap inverter importers" also have smaller TIG and MIG welders. You don't have to go for the big all-in-one.
(For the record, I don't want to start a Red vs Blue vs Chinese flame war, but I want to add a little about the research I've done recently about these things)
OP, the "Cheap inverter importers" also have smaller TIG and MIG welders. You don't have to go for the big all-in-one.
(For the record, I don't want to start a Red vs Blue vs Chinese flame war, but I want to add a little about the research I've done recently about these things)
I've been looking at the Everlast PowerPro 256 - It's the closest competitor to the other one mentioned here. I've done tons of research on the pros and cons of these machines. And I've heard a LOT of bitching about these cheap all-in-one boxes. One thing I have never heard is someone who bought one bitching about its performance after they were properly repaired (If necessary).
From what I've read so far, from people that have used them, they are good welders. I'm not going to go to bat for them directly, because I haven't ordered mine yet. But I'm going to buy it in a couple weeks.
Basically the main argument against these cheap inverter welders is that they aren't blue or red. They're cheap, comparatively, to the big boys.
The legitimate arguments against, that I can recall from all I have read are:
1) Quality issues - They are made in china, and not all are tested after import. So people received them with broken bezels or circuit boards. Typically the customers that complained of this were taken care of by the company with new parts, and the customer was either happy then, or complaining about having to pay to ship a new welder in for service. Sucks if it happens to me, but it's a risk you take.
2) Crappy arc stability - There is some arc gap thing inside that may need to be adjusted to make them work right. Maybe it's another shipping thing knocking them out of whack. I don't know. This seems to be a "Call them up and fix it on the phone" thing.
3) Duty cycle - It's a cheap inverter. It can't run as hot, for as long as a red one.
3) If one process fails, it's likely that the others will quit working too. IOW if your TIG blows you can't plasma cut or stick weld any more. Well, It's an all-in-one unit. It's the risk you take.
The reasons I'm buying a cheap inverter multi-process machine are:
1) It's cheap. I want a TIG welder, and a plasma cutter. I can't touch both of those (Painted red or blue, and with similar specs) for 150% of what this one costs.
2) I'm no pro. I've never TIG welded in my life. I don't want to buy a big expensive machine if I'm going to suck at it. I hear it's pretty tough...
3) I'm no pro. I don't need a 90% duty cycle hoss of a machine to melt metal in my garage.
3) It's small, and relatively light. I don't have a lot of room for a "Non-inverter" welder.
As for welding SS, It's got something to do with the polarity of the arc. It's more than just the gas, because you TIG SS under 100% Argon. I'm sure someone who knows a lot more about this can explain much better than that
This is worth what you paid for it, by the way. Just wanted to chime in about what I've found in a few weeks of digging up dirt on these guys...
whats the cheapest mig welder i'd be happy with on a gas setup. i've used a welder before when building my Ford Ranger's front bumper, engine cage, cab cage,light rack and bed cage. it wasn't my equipment but it was hooked up to a bottle of gas.
so whats the cheapest mig welder that I can use gas on.
next project on the horizon is 1.5" square stock brewing stand on casters.
im sure any decent welder is going to be out of my price range
must be a mig and gas capable welder.
-=Jason=-
I've never welded and don't know anyone who could teach me. What's the best way to learn to weld?
I've never welded and don't know anyone who could teach me. What's the best way to learn to weld?
I've never welded and don't know anyone who could teach me. What's the best way to learn to weld?
take a welding class at your local Jr. college
-=Jason=-
SweetSounds,
You might want to consider two separate machines, tig AND plasma.
I just bought an old miller syncrowave 250 with a water cooled torch. Way more machine than I need, but I got a pretty good deal, so it now calls my shop home. I'm still collecting the "stuff" required to get it going.
Ed
What about if you were only going to ever weld SS? What kind of machine then that wouldnt break the bank?
Tigmaster,
I saw your other thread with the amazing weld on that coupler. You have any pics on back gasing that weld? Do you use two argon bottles or what?What amperage did you use? Did you you just use the torch tip to tack? Was the pic of the interior weld just burn through from the front weld? I just obtained a syncrowave 250 like in the above post. I saw your technique but was confused at the tapping off part (asuming that was back gasing prep). Any help would be appreciated. Pics would be appreciated.
Bartman
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Denton,Tx
check out the welder ive got....a miller 150 stl...u shopuld be able to get one around 900....the best tig welder for size and price
Thats not nearly as strong as TIG or MIG?If I was going to spend 1600$ on a welder... Hands Down Miller. Maybe even a little backpack welder like this one http://www.millerwelds.com/products/tig/maxstar_150_sth/ That's all you needs plus its small, weighs like 15lbs and easily movable. You can buy all kinds of attachments for it too.
Not true you can solder/braze its easy... Just a little propane or mapp gas torch and silver-tin solder.
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I'll post my impressions when I get one - As long as nobody makes fun of my welding skillz (Or lack of!)
Thats not nearly as strong as TIG or MIG?
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