Rotten meat also has a distinct flavor.
Whether you agree with it is not what I was aiming for.
My sarcastic response came from you telling me that I didn't even understand what I was saying after I dared offer my opinion in your thread. The civility is much appreciated. I'll certainly avoid your posts in the future.
I've drank many a Fat Tire instead of a BMC. It's a decent quaffable microbrew. Not spectacular, but definately not terrible. I'd also drink just about any NB over any Sam Adams 9 times out of 10. Their popularity (without needing nearly the mass marketing that BMC or even SA put out) speaks for itself.
There are so many beers that are better, and cheaper. For example, Bridgeport isn't my favorite brewery, but the Hop Czar is $6.99 a sixer, same as NB beers.
Being popular without a mass marketing campaign doesn't mean much. In the Chicago Area, Old Style is one of the most popular beers, and the do NO advertising...and it's good for watering plants only, IMO.
Old Style does no advertising? Theres like 3 bars in the whole city without some sort of lighted old style sign. Thats advertising.
I also think Fat Tire has gone down hill over the last 10 years or so. It is not the same Fat Tire I had in the "James" (now the fake Irish Pub)on Peal St in Boulder. I do like Blue Paddle, Skinny Dip and I love 2 Degrees Below. I tried the Ranger IPA and I do like it a lot. It is not amazing but it is not swill either. Left Hand SawTooth...now that is a damn fine beer
I just think all their beer tastes dirty, like autolysis. It all has the same dirty brothy taste.
(1554 being the exception, although its probably just all the dark malts covering the taste)
I don't taste the same 'thing' in all their beers.
MeatyPortion,
I took a tour @ NB and the tour guide had the opinion that not all beers are for all people and if you don't like a beer that's fine, there's another beer (or brewery) that will suit you. Of course he said this as we were about to taste a Brett-soured beer (which I did NOT like one bit).
I just spent some time in Colorado and tried a few Deschutes beers and didn't like any of them. They just don't suit me but I won't say they are 'bad' per se, even though they taste bad to me. Taste is subjective and a personal thing.
Goinbigger,
It was prob the Moose Drool. 1554 (allegedly, per the brewer @ NB) has no finishing hops at all. I got to try MD just recently and loved it.
I used to be big fan having discovered New Belgium visiting Colorado way back in 1994, at that time they were still distributing beer via the brewmaster's station wagon. I recall loving Fat Tire back then and the Cherry ale they had at the time.
Moving forward to today, I just picked up a six of Abbey Ale and Trippel, neither has impressed me. The Abbey Ale is ok, but really not on par with the 'real deal'; just didn't really enjoy it much.
The Trippel had overwhelming DMS both in aroma and taste. I was really surprised that I could detect DMS in their product. I used to love the Trippel, but seems either my tastes of changed, or their product has changed.
Oh, and yes, Fat Tire is overrated. Again, loved it back in the day, but now just seems to be a mediocre amber ale.
Is the hop czar good? It was on sale this weekend when I was in Seattle and I turned it down in favor of something else because they were braging on the bottle that it had 2 lbs of hops per barrel and I thought that is pretty damn crappy for a IIPA when for example firestone walkers IPA (not IIPA) has 4lbs of hops per barrel. I figured it was going to be mostly bitter with not much aroma and nose to it. So how is it?
When I moved to Colorado in 1996 this along with Tommyknocker Maple nut Brown were two of the first beers I was introduced to, they were both fantastic! Even 5 years ago when NB made their move east I thought Fat Tire was still an excellent beer (Drank some in Pittsburg, Texas of all places). When they moved into Wisconsin, I remember being so excited about being able to get Fat Tire again and I also remember the let down after that first 6 pack, it just wasn't the same. Maybe my taste have changed. maybe the beer has changed. Whatever the case may be it's just not the same.
Fat Tire is flavorless. 1884 is good.
Some of their sours kick ass. Too bad they're impossible to find.
That Tommyknocker Maple Nut Brown is awesome! I have a buddy who went to school in Fort Collins and orders a case of that stuff periodically. Great beer. But yeah, the NB kind of reminds me of Henry Weinhard's now.
Have you hade the Imperial Nut Brown? Awesome!
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