EdWort said:It's basically dextrose (Corn Sugar), so you can toss it in the last 15 minutes of the boil.
malkore said:why wouldn't it be just corn sugar? corn sugar is 100% fermentable already...
Dude said:So did he ever say exactly what it is?
Ryanh1801 said:Our Alcohol Boost is not DME, LME or corn sugar. It is a blend of 55% Maltose and 45% Glucose. Corn sugar is Dextrose.
Many breweries use this sugar as an economic way to boost alcohol content without effecting flavor.
This blended sugar is more expensive than simple corn sugar, that is why there is a price difference.
He has said it in about 50% of his post.
Austinhomebrew said:Our Alcohol Boost is not DME, LME or corn sugar. It is a blend of 55% Maltose and 45% Glucose. Corn sugar is Dextrose.
Many breweries use this sugar as an economic way to boost alcohol content without effecting flavor.
This blended sugar is more expensive than simple corn sugar, that is why there is a price difference.
Forrest
Austin Homebrew Supply
Dude said:Do you work there or something?
mew said:Glucose is dextrose, which is corn sugar. DME is mostly maltose. So it's 45% corn sugar and 55% DME.
Dude said:Okay, so I'm not understanding the point then. Why not add all DME instead of essentially diluting the malt product with more corn sugar? This also adds potential cidery off flavor to the finished product.
I just don't get the point. Add more DME and call it good.
Is it a cost thing? And in that case, if you are that worried about cost, go buy BMC and be happy.
Just not understanding the reasoning here.
the_bird said:I'd argue that if you want a bigger beer, design a bigger beer, don't jack up something that's designed to be smaller. If you want something that'll kick your ass, buy an Imperial IPA kit instead of a regular IPA kit, that way you know that the hops and all that will be in balance.
smoke76 said:Who the hell is Forrest?!?!?!?!?!?!?
mew said:Glucose is dextrose, which is corn sugar. DME is mostly maltose. So it's 45% corn sugar and 55% DME.
the_bird said:I'd argue that if you want a bigger beer, design a bigger beer, don't jack up something that's designed to be smaller. If you want something that'll kick your ass, buy an Imperial IPA kit instead of a regular IPA kit, that way you know that the hops and all that will be in balance.
Dude said:Okay, so I'm not understanding the point then. Why not add all DME instead of essentially diluting the malt product with more corn sugar? This also adds potential cidery off flavor to the finished product.
I just don't get the point. Add more DME and call it good.
Is it a cost thing? And in that case, if you are that worried about cost, go buy BMC and be happy.
Just not understanding the reasoning here.
cheezydemon said:I agree, it sounds like a gimmick (sorry Forrest).
ohiobrewtus said:I agree 100%, bird. Increase your grain bill if you want a bigger beer. Adding sugars is acceptable in small quantities to assist in body or head retention, but adding pounds of sugar is not the best way to make high abv beers.
Just what I was going to say. Some folks may want to increase the alcohol leve with out affecting the body or taste of the beer. To each their own, but no reason to bad mouth it....Austinhomebrew said:DME adds more body, additional flavor, and additional color, and is more expensive than alcohol boost. That is why most people buy it instead.
the_bird said:I'd argue that if you want a bigger beer, design a bigger beer, don't jack up something that's designed to be smaller. If you want something that'll kick your ass, buy an Imperial IPA kit instead of a regular IPA kit, that way you know that the hops and all that will be in balance.
Austinhomebrew said:mew said:Quote:
Originally Posted by mew
Glucose is dextrose, which is corn sugar. DME is mostly maltose. So it's 45% corn sugar and 55% DME.
No. It isn't.
srm775 said:Yes, glucose and dextrose are the same ... atleast Webster's Medical dictionary defines them as the same thing. They have the exact same chemical formula C6H12O6
RadicalEd said:Ah, but the physical arrangement of each molecule is different! Ah...takes me bad to high school chemistry... .
srm775 said:Yes, glucose and dextrose are the same ... atleast Webster's Medical dictionary defines them as the same thing. They have the exact same chemical formula C6H12O6
Austinhomebrew said:I am sorry but it isn't a gimmick. The reason it sounds like gimmick is that every 3 days on this forum, someone asks what it is and someone else answers that it is just regular corn sugar, which is false.
RadicalEd said:Ah, but the physical arrangement of each molecule is different! Ah...takes me bad to high school chemistry... .
On deeper inspection, is it really so different than adding sugar (albeit often inverted or candi) to a belgian to pump it up without adding significant body? Do correct me if I'm wrong here; I'm no expert on belgians . Or for that matter, how we add 2 lbs of sugar (table, brown, corn, etc) to Edwort's Apfelwein to give it that extra kick?
To each his own with this product. Would I use it? Probably not, but that's not gonna make me start degrading others who do, when so many of us are doing (almost) the same thing with so many of our other brews.
orfy said:Each to their own.
You can craft a balanced beer to the required profile with out it.
You can craft a lighter bodied higher ABV beer light coloured beer with out it.
I wouldn't consider using it.
In my opinion on a kit that is designed to be balance at the ABV it is, then it will change the recipe and may unbalance it purely for the sake of ABV.
BUT
It is an easy option for brewers who want to up ABV cheaply and easily.
And we know there are plenty of brewers who want just this.
So commercially it is a very good product that appeals to a market.
Lets face it. It's gotta be a no brainer compared to just dumping in plain sugar.
It's aimed at people who can not or do not want to formulate recipes.
If I was a retailer would I stock it, "Hell yeh"
Would I promote it?
It depends on the profit margin compared to the comparable product giving the characteristics required.
I'd want to educate the customer so they can make an informed choice.
Forest, thanks for your input. It's good to have the correct information.
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