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I am helping a friend buy a 60th birthday gift for her husband. Budget is $500.

I would think that a 5 gallon extract system is best as he has never brewed before. With the rest of the budget I'm thinking a corney or two as well.

Looking for direction for best places to buy "kits" so my friend doesn't have to search out and buy individual components.

He likes quality stuff, no junk, so with that in mind there may not be budget for kegging equipment.

Any help?
 
http://morebeer.com/products/personal-home-brewery-kit-5-kegging-super-deluxe.html

Here is basically a everything you asked for in a prefab kit. The 8g pot is nice if he decides to move outside for full boils. Even comes with a beer kit. Im sure you could piece this together cheaper somewhere but for a all inclusive starter setup it pretty much covers everything and it would lend itself well to moving to brew in a bag or all grain.
 
Consider an STC-1000 and mini fridge/freezer instead of kegs. Kegs do make life easier, but temp control with that morebeer kit puts you in a great position to make excellent beer from day one.
 
I agree with Wolfbrau, Look at it this way, you could have the best top dollar
hardware for brewing on the planet, but if you do not control your fermentation temperatures, you may as well just pour your technically perfect wort down the drain. I am not kidding. Find a mini fridge that is tall enough inside to not only hold your fermenter, but a keg maybe in the future.
 
But him a good beginners kit. And some quality ingredients.
And a bench capper
Then direct him to this site.

IMO you can get all that fancy keg equipment and the fridge too but what if he doesn't like brewing that much? It's a waste for a first timer.

He'll make some of the best beer he's ever had just on his first try no matter what if he follows directions.

To control the temps on the first brew, just get it set up in the basement or get a big tub filled with water to keep thge primary fermenter cool.
 
He'll make some of the best beer he's ever had just on his first try no matter what if he follows directions.



To control the temps on the first brew, just get it set up in the basement or get a big tub filled with water to keep thge primary fermenter cool.[/QUOTE]


I agree. I'm a noob with basic equipment and I have a blast and make really good beer already.



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I just made a thread about kegging as I'm begging to get there. That said, I wouldn't go there with the first $500. As you mentioned your friend likes quality stuff then I suggest you do an excellent job on the basics and it'll more likely impress him, have an enjoyable experience, and want to get in further at his own pace.

Looking over the kit suggested in the second or so post, I wouldn't go with it. An 8 gallon pot and a a pin lock keg are both things that he'll likely want to upgrade sooner rather than later should this hobby fly with him. So this is what I recommend:

10 gallon pot minimum, preferably 15.
Propane Burner (Blichmann is best but not likely affordable on this budget)
2 fermenters (buckets) with lids
2 airlocks (s-style)
2 bungs
Bottling bucket
Bench capper
Bottling wand
Auto-siphon
Hose
Caps
Sanitizer
Hydrometer
2 Stick on thermometers
Long handled stainless steel spoon
Bottle Brush

Let him pick out his own kit.
Use recycled bottles for now - get friends to save bottles or hit up a bar.



I don't know how successful you'd be at getting all that for $500, but if you shop around and have a bit of time on your side it may well be possible. [see post below - I priced it out for you, all from Mid-West (whom I have no affiliation with)]
 
...i left out a wort chiller in the above post as I don't think you'd be able to get one in there with the $500 budget, but it would obviously make his first brew day go much smoother and be the next thing to get/make. If you are good friends with him and/or the wife then perhaps you could lend him yours (assuming you have one) for his first brew day.
 
IMO you can get all that fancy keg equipment and the fridge too but what if he doesn't like brewing that much?

That's not a bug. That's a feature. "Hey, bro, I see you're not using that nice temp controlled chamber I got you... mind if I borrow it?"
 
15 Gallon Stainless Steel Kettle - $170

http://www.midwestsupplies.com/15-g...-brew-kettle-with-ball-valve-thermometer.html

Blichmann Burner - $150

http://www.midwestsupplies.com/blichmann-floor-standing-burner.html

2x 6.5 gallon Fermenter Buckets with lids - $32 (total)

http://www.midwestsupplies.com/6-5-gallon-plastic-fermenter-with-lid.html

2 Rubber Stoppers (drilled) - $2.00 (I think you want size 6.5?)

http://www.midwestsupplies.com/rubber-stoppers-drilled.html

3-piece airlock - $1.29 (use for blow off tube)

http://www.midwestsupplies.com/airlock-3-piece-type.html

S-Airlock - $1.29 (use after blow-off tube)

http://www.midwestsupplies.com/airlock-s-bubble-type.html

Bottling Bucket with spigot - $16

http://www.midwestsupplies.com/bottling-bucket-with-spigot.html

Autosiphon - $10

http://www.midwestsupplies.com/regular-5-16-auto-siphon.html

Bottling Wand - $2.79

http://www.midwestsupplies.com/plastic-spring-tip-bottle-filler.html

3/8" tubing, 10 feet (use for auto-siphon and bottling wand) - $2.70

http://www.midwestsupplies.com/tubing-2.html

Bench Capper - $40

http://www.midwestsupplies.com/bench-bottle-capper.html

120 Bottle Caps - $3.50

http://www.midwestsupplies.com/fermenter-s-favorites-120-count-crown-color-beer-bottle-caps.html

Long Handled Stainless Steel Spoon - $7.00

http://www.midwestsupplies.com/21-stainless-steel-spoon.html

Starsan (16oz - smaller and larger quantities available) - $3.99

http://www.midwestsupplies.com/chemical-resistant-spray-sanitizer-bottle-16oz.html

Bottle Brush - $3.00

http://www.midwestsupplies.com/bottle-brush.html

Hydrometer - $7.00

http://www.midwestsupplies.com/hydrometer-triplescale.html

2 stick on thermometers (go on side of fermenters) - $6.00

http://www.midwestsupplies.com/fermometer-adhesive-fermenter-thermometer.html



Grand total: $458.56 (before taxes and shipping).

The only thing not included in the above that I think is essential is tubing for the blow-off tube, as I can't remember off-hand what size you'd need. A few house-hold items are also left off, for example - a turkey baster for taking a sample, and a standard bathroom cabinet thermometer for when re-hydrating yeast. As mentioned above, the only really useful item for brew-day left off this list is a wort chiller, but he can ice-bath his kettle to get down to pitching temps. Also note, that if you shop around you can probably price a cheaper stainless steel kettle of the same size (or go with 10 gallons) - or even go aluminum to save costs. But if it were me getting set up for brewing, with $500 bucks this list above is exactly what I'd get.

Hope this helps.
 
The number one thing someone can do to better their beer is fermentation control. That being said Im not sure it is something to invest in until you know you want to brew beer. The same can be said for kegging as well.

I would not buy a 15g pot to start out personally. If you are brewing once every few months I can see doing 10g batches but I would be willing to brew every other week if I could and I don't know nearly enough savage alcoholics to consume that much beer. I have a 15g pot and would prefer something smaller with better thermometer placement.
 
Are you sure you are getting him what he may want or what you want him to have? I wouldn't blow $500 on brewing stuff for someone who has never brewed before.
 
The bayou burner and a 10g pot are both reasonable suggestions, especially for someone just starting out who doesn't know if they'll like the hobby or not. The reason I suggested a 15g pot is because there's a rather negligible (imho) price difference ($42) between the 10g and 15g stainless steel pots, and a 15g is something that will have the recipient not feel constrained and needing to upgrade later should they get into the hobby with reasonable enthusiasm. However, the recipient is turning 60, and probably doesn't want to be lugging around heavy equipment, so perhaps the 10g is indeed more appropriate in this case, and many-a-brewers are well satisfied with a 10g pot. So this one's a trade-off and (imho) the OP has two very reasonable suggestions to choose between. Sticking with 10 gallons and using the cost savings towards a wort-chiller is probably the better option.

I also chose to list the blichmann burner over the bayou burner, as the OP suggested that the recipient admires quality over most other considerations. I've never used anything but the blichmann so I can't adequately compare. However, I did do quite a bit of research on the two before buying myself a blichhmann burner, and everything other than cost pointed to it being a better burner: quieter, more efficient on gas, upgradeable (stands of various sorts) and good customer service reviews from other users. By all means though, most reports on here suggest that people are satisfied with the bayou burner with the exception that I've heard of poor customer service if there are problems (which I have no experience of myself). Personally, whenever I'm shopping between two items like this, if I go with the cheaper option then I'm often wondering how much it'd have been better had I gone with the 'better' item. Given the OPs description of the recipient, I would still recommend the blichmann over the bayou, but it's a reasonable suggestion to go with the bayou. The cost savings by going with the bayou would ensure the recipient a wort chiller without going over budget. If it were me though and the budget needed to be stretched a wee bit, then I'd choose the blichmann over the bayou as originally suggested.

I did not recommend a fermentation chamber for several reasons: First, from what I gather the recipient lives in WA state and from what I guess, it's very few months of the year that he's likely to be battling higher than desirable fermentation temps. A simple and cheaply assembled swamp cooler will likely suffice for his needs in those instances. Any brewers from WA can give the OP a more accurate indication of brewing climate though. If he has a basement, then I imagine it's a no-brainer to avoid getting one at this time unless he really wants to do lagers. If he later does find he wants to dedicate money (and space) to a fermentation chamber, then it's an option for an upgrade that doesn't mean money was wasted in the initial purchase.


All in all, it's probably wise to go with the 10 gallon pot, as others have suggested, and with the savings, get a wort chiller. It's the one item when I was making the list that I was regretting being unable to include for cost considerations. I recommend a 25 foot, 3/8" OD (outside diameter) copper immersion wort chiller. Midwestern (the site quoted for the other equipment) has them for about $70, but someone posted a link on here the other day of one for about $45. That would keep you close to your budget, but I suspect with shipping (and taxes?) you'll be a little over. Sacrifice the blichmann for a bayou and you should probably be well within budget.
 
Wow, thanks for the suggestions so far.

I'm meeting with my friend (Gail) today to discuss this. Her husband (Bruno) is one of those guys who has pretty much everything he wants already. He is close to retirement and Gail wants to make sure he's able to stay busy.

She did buy him a brew day at this place for a previous birthday - http://www.whereubrew.com/ and I think he must have enjoyed it. Now she wants to give him all the equipment to brew at home.

Size of the system seems to be my biggest question. Well, size and fermentation temp control. I'm going to ask Gail what she thinks about this as well. I'm thinking a smaller system might be more fun for a retired person, but I very well may be wrong.

I appreciate all comments so far.
 
I went from kit-n-kilo beers to partial boil, partial mash brew in a bag with the same 5 gallon (20qt) stock pot I started with. A 5 gallon medium mesh paint strainer bag & the 5 gallon kettle would save a lot more money. Since he may likely start on the stove top. Otherwise an 8 gallon with a quality burner would be better.
Here's some pics of my brewery corner for ideas;


The 4' x 2' bottling table is from Walmart. 45 bottle tree & avinator for sanitizing bottles can be had from Midwest, Nb, or any decent lhbs. That's my SS 5 gallon stockpot at the bottom of the old printer stand now fermentation stand/storage unit. There are a lot of DIY things for brewing that can be re-purposed. The Lowe's blue bucket is used with the Barley Crusher grain mill sitting on top of it for crushing grains for pm beers as well as E/SG beers. The 7 lb hopper is plenty for these brewing styles. The midwest bucket is 7.9 gallon shorty pail that HAS a seal in the lid. The taller 6.5 gallon Ale Pailes that they also sell with their logo on it, do not. The bottling bucket on the black bottling table is the same size/type as the Midwest one. That's a 6 gallon better bottle in the back for the occasional secondary for oaking,etc.
A digital scale can be had from Walmart for $20 to measure priming sugar, hops, grains,etc. I use the box from the vinator to store zip lock bags full of spare parts for fermenters, airlocks, grain & hop bags & the like. A dollar store spray bottle for Starsan can also be seen. I use Starsan sanitizer & PBW cleaner, both from 5-star chemical & easy to find. I use Arizona ice tea 1 gallon jugs to store my mixed Starsan & PBW solutions in. A cheap rubber mallet & lid prying tool can also save hands & fingers from being sore from hammering ale pail lids on & prying them off with finger tips. The dollar store is also good for measuring spoons, cup measures, spray bottles & funnels that he'll also need. The bottling wand uses 3/8" tubing you can get at Home Depot, Lowe's & elsewhere. Floating thermometers, hydrometers, stick on thermometers should be obtained as well. I use the large bag that the Super Agata bench capper came in as a dust cover. I do this wi the shipping bags for the larger items to keep'em clean. Cheap insurance, certainly.
 
I'd do a basic kit, like the deluxe from Northern Brewer for $170, then add in a pot. That gets him started, and if he really likes it and wants to move to all grain, well there are future birthdays there as well!

Also, absolutely should include How to Brew by Palmer!
 
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