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Old 12-06-2007, 01:25 PM   #11
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Thanks for the info chris. I have already sat down and and figured out most of the set up. I have done three AG so I know a little about what to enter. One I don't know is "dead space" in th MLT. Not to sure what that is. Going to be booked up for the next couple of weekends due to holiday stuff so during the week I'll hopefully get all the correct data and get some recipies entered. After the holidays I am going to go nuts though and brew as much as possible with a little ice fishing in between Again thanks for the info and if anyone wants to recomend some good recipies I am open for ideas.
MLT dead space is the amount you leave behind in the MLT after draining off your sparge water. Unfortunately, I think that will change just a little bit with each grain bill, based on how much water your grains absorb (i.e. base malts vs. adjuncts vs. wheat, etc). I just put some water in my MLT, drained it through my manifold, then measured the amount I had left in my tun by picking the tun up and pouring it out into a measuring cup. Although this amount should be a little larger than my actual deadspace with grains in the tun, I figured it should be pretty close. Worst case scenario, you'll wind up with a little extra (probably less than a quart extra) in the kettle, and you'll be shooting for a target post-boil volume anyway, so it shouldn't change things much.

Alternately, you could probably try to do the same thinig after a brewing run, but trying to recapture the small amount of water under your grain bed after sparging sounds like a huge, messy PITA to me, for not a huge gain in accuracy.


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Old 12-07-2007, 05:35 AM   #12
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The grain absorbtin shouldn't matter in the dead space since it's calculated in in a different part of the calc. He had it almost right it's the amount left if you drained the MLT dry via normal sparing techniques.


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Yeah, re-thought that after I posted it, and you're right -- grain absorbtion shouldn't change the dead space, because by the time the grainbed for sparging has set up, the grains are long since saturated, and have done all of the absorbing they're going to. I do stand by my assertion that dead space will be different when measured with water only vs. after an actual sparge, though. The former is really easy to measure, and the latter is quite a bit more challenging/messy.
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Old 12-13-2007, 03:48 AM   #14
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Well I just went through the example in BeerSmith for the Pale Ale. Then I clicked on one of the wheat and instantaneously chnaged mash profiles. No longer then to double click em. Then saw a DETAILED step by step instructions of how to brew it depending on which mash schedual I choose. I'm speechless.....I'm sure I speak for many when I sit in ah and think back to how many nights it took me to figure out how to do a simple batch in ProMash.

Keep thinking there has got to be something Im missing that will make this process much more complex..... eh..... nothing comes to mind......

Nobody on this software is working for MicroSoft thats for sure.....
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Having problems with the Import.... can I import Promash? Gives me an error.
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Having problems with the Import.... can I import Promash? Gives me an error.
Give a shout over at Beer Smith. I have had great luck with BS showing up and helping me out with any questions I might have. He may of course, pop in here as well.

http://www.beersmith.com/forum/index.php
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Give a shout over at Beer Smith. I have had great luck with BS showing up and helping me out with any questions I might have. He may of course, pop in here as well.

http://www.beersmith.com/forum/index.php
Based on the replies, they be better off asking here.
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Based on the replies, they be better off asking here.
He has a problem with importing a Promash recipe into BeerSmith, why exactly would he post that in the Recipes forum like your screen shot?

Beersmith does a decent job anwsering questions/support issues in the "Support" sub forum there.

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He has a problem with importing a Promash recipe into BeerSmith, why exactly would he post that in the Recipes forum like your screen shot?
The answer (the answer my friends is blowing in the wind........)... the answer my friends comes down to two words.

"propietary format"


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