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Old 10-28-2007, 07:06 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by McKBrew
I've definately experienced the Lupulin Threshold Shift.
+1!!! I used to think that even the most mild of IPAs were "too hoppy." Now I seek out IIPAs, and I can't get enough! I still really enjoy a good, malty brew, but I can be a bit of a hophead at times.

Stone Ruination kicks ass - overwhelms the tastebuds and nose, leaves your palate devastated. It's awesome...and a little numbing.
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Old 10-28-2007, 07:19 PM   #12
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I hear a lot about Stone Ruination. Where's the recipe, guys? Also, how can I get a more "chewy" IPA? The ones I make are bitter enough, but not with enough body, which somehow seems to affect the nature of the hop flavor.

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Old 10-28-2007, 08:09 PM   #13
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The one I made is not high on ABV at 4.5% but it is mashed high so it's got plenty of maltiness. I think it's very balanced.

It is not mouth puckering or overly floral. Some of my hops were opened for a week so the IBUs may be lower than stated. My normal brews are around 25 IBUs.

Size: 23.00 L
Boil Size: 30.50 L
Estimated OG: 1.046 SG
Estimated Color: 7.5 SRM
Estimated IBU: 68.7 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 65.0 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Amount Item Type % or IBU
4.00 kg Pale Malt, Maris Otter (Thomas Fawcett) (3Grain 76.2 %
1.00 kg Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) Grain 19.0 %
0.25 kg Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 4.8 %
30.00 gm Cascade [5.50%] (60 min) Hops 17.1 IBU
30.00 gm Fuggles [4.50%] (60 min) Hops 14.0 IBU
30.00 gm Goldings, East Kent [4.00%] (60 min) Hops 13.8 IBU
30.00 gm Cascade [5.50%] (30 min) Hops 13.1 IBU
30.00 gm Fuggles [4.50%] (30 min) Hops 10.7 IBU
28.30 gm Styrian Goldings [5.00%] (0 min) Hops -
30.00 gm Fuggles [4.50%] (0 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep)Hops -
2.00 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 10.0 min) Misc
60.00 gm Burton Water Salts (Mash 60.0 min) Misc
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Old 10-28-2007, 08:46 PM   #14
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Based on my liquid "research", I'd say hops are as addictive as a certain closely related leafy plant. Think about it. You're first "hit" is typically something with a lower IBU, and it overwhelms you at first, then before long you are brewing/drinking mega IPA's and then dry-hopping with even more and it's not enough.
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Old 10-28-2007, 08:51 PM   #15
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I am far more into hop bitterness and flavor than aroma. Although there should be a balance between the three, if I have to pick I pick the former two. But I love a huge kick of bitterness when there isn't enough malt flavor to back it up.

Stone's Ruination goes a long way to what I think an IPA should be.

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