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Old 09-15-2012, 06:22 PM   #11
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It looks like its somewhere between an APA and an IPA. What yeast? What time is the hop addition? How big is the batch?
Pretty small amount of hops for either of those styles.

 
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Old 09-15-2012, 06:25 PM   #12
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Pretty small amount of hops for either of those styles.
Actually if you pitch 1oz of kent goldings 5% in at 60' it puts you around 33 IBUs. Low for an IPA, but in range for an APA. However for a 2.5 gallon batch the ABV is up over 6% which is too high for an APA. (assuming US-05 and about 75% attentuation)

 
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Old 09-15-2012, 06:34 PM   #13
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IBUs may match the style guidelines but where does the hops flavor and aroma come from if you boil the only hops in the recipe for 60 min?

 
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Old 09-15-2012, 07:09 PM   #14
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It looks like its somewhere between an APA and an IPA. What yeast? What time is the hop addition? How big is the batch?
I'd disagree. It's a bunch of random extract, a bag of corn sugar, and 1oz of EKG. Sounds like a random recipe created to make yellow fizzy bush beer.

Hence, the fact the guy is having issues with some taste, because the recipe is tossed together.

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Old 09-15-2012, 10:56 PM   #15
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I am going off LME for good I think. Yeah the hops were boiled 1/2 oz at 30 minutes and half at the end. Its hoppy enough. Just seems syrupy & sweet after 10 days ferment. (readings say it's fermented) Thats all... It does not taste bad it tastes rather good... I suppose i'm just not used to such a full beer. I may need to go lighter by adding more water.

Jeez I did not think I'd get so many replies. I think its a good recipe if you like a thick rich higher alc beer. It used 2 1/2 gallons water ... If i did it again I would probably use 3 1/2. Im sure that conditioning will help this along.

 
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Old 09-15-2012, 10:59 PM   #16
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I am going off LME for good I think. Yeah the hops were boiled 1/2 oz at 30 minutes and half at the end. Its hoppy enough. Just seems syrupy & sweet after 10 days ferment. (readings say it's fermented) Thats all... It does not taste bad it tastes rather good... I suppose i'm just not used to such a full beer. I may need to go lighter by adding more water.

Jeez I did not think I'd get so many replies. I think its a good recipe if you like a thick rich higher alc beer. It used 2 1/2 gallons water ... If i did it again I would probably use 3 1/2. Im sure that conditioning will help this along.
If it's "syrupy and sweet", it's underhopped (underbittered). The hops added at 60 minutes are added to balance the sweet malt. It's not a good recipe, to be honest, and that is why the beer is not that good.
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Old 09-16-2012, 01:50 AM   #17
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If it's "syrupy and sweet", it's underhopped (underbittered). The hops added at 60 minutes are added to balance the sweet malt. It's not a good recipe, to be honest, and that is why the beer is not that good.

Yea, adding this hops according to the OP puts you around 12-13 IBUs. That is off the charts malty.
http://www.brewsupplies.com/_borders/hopsgraph.jpg

See chart.
First, dextrose should never really be more than 20% of the fermentables.
Second, you need a lot more hops if you are using them at 30 and flameout. Check the chart in the link.
Third, if you don't want such syrupy beers, try session brews or lower ABV recipes. Yours is 6.5% ish with good attenuation.
Last the LME isn't to blame here, it's how you are using it thats causing the issue.

Now a few questions, are your ending with 2.5 gallons or starting with it?
When are you adding the LME? Start of the boil? End? @10 minutes?
With only a 30 minute hop addition, how long are you boiling?
What type of comercial brews do you like? What styles really appeal to you?

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Old 09-16-2012, 02:06 AM   #18
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[QUOTE=Draken;4416258]

Now a few questions, are your ending with 2.5 gallons or starting with it?

Ending with Draken... started with 2 3/4

When are you adding the LME? Start of the boil? End? @10 minutes?

End of boil for the LME (yes 10) 30 minutes for DME. 60 minute boil total.
With only a 30 minute hop addition, how long are you boiling?

I boiled 1/2 oz at the beginning and 1/2 oz at the last 15 minutes

What type of comercial brews do you like?

I like fosters ale, I like ESB WIT and Copper hook and I also like newcastle ale.Thanks

As I said it tastes good and yes it's not hopped enough. Nice malt flavor but a little sweet still.

 
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Old 09-16-2012, 02:13 AM   #19
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You really need to use a decent recipe, or buy a kit. What you're using is no good.

 
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Old 09-16-2012, 02:21 AM   #20
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See what happens if you age it. With the corn sugar I bet it drys up more.It seems to me it does that at first though dryer/weirder when i use sugar then it balances out better with age. Although I notice often it seems I can also get a dryer more refined beer upon ageing also. So..... it just depends,all else fails let it age.

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