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Old 07-21-2011, 05:31 PM   #11
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1.) Get one ounce of hops
2.) Take a dry weight
3.) Soak it in beer
4.) Remove hops
5.) Drip dry
6.) Take a wet weight

Now you know how much beer is absorbed into one ounce of hops. Divide 5 gallons by that amount to know how much hops to buy. Buy an additional 10% just to make sure.

 
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Old 07-21-2011, 05:36 PM   #12
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Actually I'm in the early stages of putting together a homebrewing tv show involving some solid techniques along with utterly ill advised things. Admittedly, I'm deep into the homebrew tonight and thought this up earlier while squeezing the beer out of 4oz worth of dry hops.

If I try it I'll start with a gallon and I'll just order something like Cascade in bulk to do it. Probably make it a barleywine or DIPA just to try to stand up to the hops. LMAO. Like that's even possible.
Your show will be about "how to ruin a beer by oxidation and waste $100 of hops in one batch!" Remember that squeezing/splashing will ruin the beer, due to oxidizing it. You could make a big French press and do it under co2, though, if you actually wanted a drinkable product when done.
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Old 07-21-2011, 06:59 PM   #13
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Your show will be about "how to ruin a beer by oxidation and waste $100 of hops in one batch!" Remember that squeezing/splashing will ruin the beer, due to oxidizing it. You could make a big French press and do it under co2, though, if you actually wanted a drinkable product when done.
Good point about the CO2 blanket.

You could experiment with CO2 vs O2 exposure to determine oxidation rates.
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Old 07-21-2011, 06:59 PM   #14
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Your show will be about "how to ruin a beer by oxidation and waste $100 of hops in one batch!" Remember that squeezing/splashing will ruin the beer, due to oxidizing it. You could make a big French press and do it under co2, though, if you actually wanted a drinkable product when done.
I love the idea of a 5 gallon French press!
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Old 07-21-2011, 07:25 PM   #15
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Why not just use a Randall machine like this one? 10" Hop Randall

All of the hoppy goodness with none of the oxidation!

 
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Old 07-21-2011, 07:33 PM   #16
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I think a better experiment would be to see how many flameout/whirlpool hops it would take. This way the oxygen introduced would be consumed by the yeast during propogation.

IMO, I would do a IIPA in a big arse brewpot and add 3 pounds of whole hops at 3 minutes as the only addition. If the hops are hardcore like columbus, in a 10 gallon batch you would get around 100 IBU.....IMO, it would be a tasty experiment.

I recently did a 10 gallon batch with 16 oz of cascade at flameout and the whole hops consumed up about 1/3 the volume of the brew kettle after they expanded and absorbed wort. I used a sterilized colander and my mash paddle to "smash" the wort out of the hops and into the fermenter. I am anxiously awaiting this brew to finish up so I can taste the results.

It really isn't a waste of money , I buy my whole cone hops once a year from a place in Oregon (not hopsdirect) and if I order eneough, willamette, cascade and columbus come out at about $7 a pound.

 
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Old 07-23-2011, 06:29 PM   #17
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Another option, just do it like they drink Yerbe Mate in Argentina. They have ss straws with a paddle shaped filter on the end and they pour the crushed tea leaves into the cup surrounding the ss straw. Next, they pour hot water over the tea leave and drink the tea through the straw. For your experiment pulvirize/grind hops and fill a glass with a stainer straw in it. Pour your beer over the hops and start sucking! Makes me think that girl drinking beer from a staw, in a recent thread, was onto something.

 
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Old 07-24-2011, 03:11 PM   #18
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Nearly sprayed my computer screen with coffee when I read the OP in this thread. Seriously there are folks who make hop tea, but this would likely be far worse than that. It's all about balance.

Yes you could drink a cup of maple syrup, but it's better on a stack of pancakes. Well, try a couple hop plugs with one bottle if you really want to know...
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Old 07-24-2011, 03:30 PM   #19
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what you need to make is a 5gal version of one of these:

Wouldnt be that hard and in fact since you are pushing the limits on materials, you could build one out of acrylic pipe so you can see the pressing happening.

call a local metal shop and find out what the cost would be for a stainless steel mesh press. easy build and easy to clean.

I say try things to find out what happens. Hope its fun!
This looks pretty cool and I think I could make one pretty cheap too.
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Old 07-24-2011, 03:35 PM   #20
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+1 on doing this with a 1 gallon batch and whole hops. WOuldn't cost me much of nothing to pick them straight off the vine in a 1 gallon container and siphon beer straight on top of it. Need to drink fast afterwards

 
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