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Old 12-18-2006, 06:30 AM   #1
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I wanted to make a shroom beer. I was thinking 1-2 onces for a 5 gallon batch, and since they have a sunflower seed taste mabey do a porter? Any suggestions?
And what would be the best time to put them in, at the end of the boil or during the mash? What temp does psilocybin break down at?
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Old 12-18-2006, 06:37 AM   #2
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Old 12-18-2006, 07:49 AM   #3
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Old 12-18-2006, 04:41 PM   #4
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For magic mushrooms, I don't think you want to boil them. I would soak them in water for a few days, mix with vodka or everclear up to about 15% alcohol, let it sit for a few days, sample the liquid, and then add it to the beer. no pasteurization. But that's just my hunch. I'm not a shroom expert. Only did them once.

 
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Old 12-18-2006, 05:15 PM   #5
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Quote:
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I wanted to make a shroom beer. I was thinking 1-2 onces for a 5 gallon batch, and since they have a sunflower seed taste mabey do a porter? Any suggestions?
And what would be the best time to put them in, at the end of the boil or during the mash? What temp does psilocybin break down at?
First of all, I like your style

Do not boil! Extreme heat will deteriate the psilocybin

use 1-2 ounce (depending on strength/strain...I use lab grown, no cow patties for me) of dried shrooms to make shroom tea.

Then add it to your wort in the primary or secondary, I add to secondary.

WhenI do this it is not with beer though it is with a fruity malt beverage of mine.

Good luck and BE CAREFUL who you give your brew in this case

 
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Old 12-18-2006, 05:25 PM   #6
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I've heard that alcohol helps extract the psilocybin. I also figure that there is a risk of infection with the shrooms. Sure, lab-grown ones are sterile in the lab, but from there to your doostep, who knows what they've gone through. So I would definitely want to "sterilize" them a little. So, while you can't use heat, it seems to me that adding them to water, and then later adding up to 20% everclear and letting it rest should go a long way toward killing any nasties.

 
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Old 12-18-2006, 07:09 PM   #7
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You should probably do a potency check first. If you have a good source, figure out how much is required for a good experience. I find that even with really good stuff, it's about a 16th of an oz.

With that in mind, figure out how many beers you want a person to consume to have this experience. I'd recommend stretching it out to at least 3 beers. In that case it's just over 1/2 gram per beer. That'd mean that you'd want at least one oz (26.25 grams by my calculations) for a 45 bottle batch of beer.

Now I know first hand that making tea never gives as strong an experience as eating them, so you may want to nudge up to about 35-40 grams.

I would pulverize the caps and stems and simmer to make a tea, then add all of the contents to your secondary or even your bottling bucket.
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Old 12-18-2006, 07:25 PM   #8
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o dear lord

all i know is that when I used to shroom, I would drink, drink, and drink more. And now the beer has psilocybin in it? Sounds like a one way trip to the ER for me.
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Old 12-18-2006, 08:02 PM   #9
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Sounds great!Nice analysis Cheese.Seriously,has this actually been done?What a wild idea!
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Old 12-18-2006, 08:05 PM   #10
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