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Old 12-30-2009, 06:39 AM   #11
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Old 12-30-2009, 06:45 AM   #12
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porn star? i have a wenis that's too large. i know.. it's a curse.

brewer? 1. money 2. legalities 3. motivation


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Old 12-30-2009, 07:02 AM   #13
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I'm looking to have a main selling beer within 10-14 months; I started brewing 2 months ago in the first few weeks of November. This is a new conquest of mine, and naturally I was wondering what was holding some back, and of course, I was curious what else I could find out about stepping up to the big leagues.
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Old 12-30-2009, 12:24 PM   #14
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For me it's the same reason I didn't study Astronomy in College. It's one of my hobbies, and I'd hate to think of what would happen if my hobby suddenly became "work."

Also, I just started brewing, so going pro doesn't even seem like a possibility right now.
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Old 12-30-2009, 12:31 PM   #15
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Experience, knowledge and equipment. With those things I could be dangerous.
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Old 12-30-2009, 12:49 PM   #16
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What keeps you from going pro?
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Old 12-30-2009, 01:06 PM   #17
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The first thing is that a brewery is a factory and I've worked in a factory and know I don't like it. The second thing is that I would not likely come close to replacing my current income.
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Old 12-30-2009, 01:17 PM   #18
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Here is a bit more reading from another HBT member:

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Old 12-30-2009, 01:50 PM   #19
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There are a lot of hurdles. There is a HUGE investment required to sell bottled beer in stores (including the 25% cut your distributor is going to pocket). For this reason, I have read that most brewers go pro in one of two ways: #1 Start a brew pub (brew pubs can sell their own beer without going through a distributor; doesn't require bottling) or #2 Sell kegged beer to local bars & restaurant.

Brew pubs are iffy start ups these days. You are talking about a $3 million investment that requires not just brewing know-how but restaurant management skills. Restaurants of all kinds are struggling in this economy--I wouldn't tie my dream to a restaurant. One of the ways around these risks would be to find an established, successful restaurant that would allow you to brew on premise but then you would need to lawyer up in order to determine what party has the rights to the beer etc etc.

Nanobreweries can be easy to start up or near impossible to begin depending on state law. The tax permits are often not that expensive (relatively speaking) or as difficult to get as you might think...it's more of a time deal from what I have read. If your state will allow you to sell kegs directly to bars and restaurants without needing a distributor, you have a prayer. Obviously, your future will depend on finding bars to buy your beer. If you make the right connections and have the local watering holes pushing your product, you'll be able to stabilize.

Read up and find out what your state laws are. This is an intriguing process, but for your sake, please don't enter it naively. It's not an impossible process like some make it sound, but it's sure as hell no walk through the park either.
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Old 12-30-2009, 02:17 PM   #20
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The primary factor is money; any legalities are easily dealt with with enough money. Also, as someone else mentioned, there's the motivation. Running any business is a lot of work, and this is a hobby for most people. I have a love/hate thing for brewing, so maybe it would work for me. Of course, I have no money to start such a business, so motivation isn't even a factor at this point.

I can appreciate your apparent desire. I'm the last person who would seek to quell one's dreams, but even if you were an experienced brewer that had 50 grand or so burning a hole in your pocket, 10-14 months is impossibly optimistic; it would probably take that long (or longer) just to cut through all the red tape of permits, licensing, etc. Laws vary from state to state, but generally speaking, you can't just brew beer in your garage or basement and sell it. Even if you could, you'd need a system large and efficient enough to make it worth your while. Basically, you need some sort of commercial property, with approval from the local zoning board, along with all the permits from the local, state, and federal government. This location would need to meet any applicable health codes - think commercial kitchen. IF you can acquire an existing bar or restaurant, that might put you ahead of the game if a brewpub is what you're looking for, but that's really a whole different animal. In Illinois there are various licenses and associated fees for breweries, distributors, brewpubs, etc. You'd have to research what laws apply for your location.

Anyway, this subject has been discussed here and elsewhere by people more knowledgeable than myself. To get some more insight into the biz, you can check out probrewer.com. If you truly have the desire, then by all means, go for it. Just be aware of what such an endeavour entails.


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