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I love chocolate malt in my porters and stouts, but from my experience anything over 2 ounces will definately darken the color of my beer.
 
I brewed this again today. Or, something very very similar anyway.

10 gallon batch
OG 1.062
IBUs: 56

20 lbs Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM)
2 lbs Weyermann Munich malt
1 lbs 8.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L
12.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L
12.0 oz Biscuit malt
2.0 oz Chocolate (Crisp)
2.0 oz Fawcett pale chocolate

2.00 oz Centennial [11.90 %] - Boil 20.0 min Hop 12 24.9 IBUs
2.00 oz Amarillo [9.50 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 13 14.8 IBUs
2.00 oz Amarillo [9.50 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 14 11.9 IBUs
1.00 oz Centennial [11.90 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 15 4.1 IBUs
2.00 oz Amarillo [9.50 %] - Boil 0.0 min Hop 16 0.0 IBUs

Oh, my goodness did I have a LOT of hops in the wort. The amarillo are all 2012 leaf hops, and they sure smelled great.

I used S05 in one fermenter, and WLP001 in the other.
 
um, am I missing something: no bittering hops? (Is that what hop bursting means?) How long do you boil it?
 
Yooper said:
I brewed this again today. Or, something very very similar anyway.

10 gallon batch
OG 1.062
IBUs: 56

20 lbs Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM)
2 lbs Weyermann Munich malt
1 lbs 8.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L
12.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L
12.0 oz Biscuit malt
2.0 oz Chocolate (Crisp)
2.0 oz Fawcett pale chocolate

2.00 oz Centennial [11.90 %] - Boil 20.0 min Hop 12 24.9 IBUs
2.00 oz Amarillo [9.50 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 13 14.8 IBUs
2.00 oz Amarillo [9.50 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 14 11.9 IBUs
1.00 oz Centennial [11.90 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 15 4.1 IBUs
2.00 oz Amarillo [9.50 %] - Boil 0.0 min Hop 16 0.0 IBUs

Oh, my goodness did I have a LOT of hops in the wort. The amarillo are all 2012 leaf hops, and they sure smelled great.

I used S05 in one fermenter, and WLP001 in the other.

Yooper how'd this batch turn out? What was learned between the 2 variations?
 
Yooper,

How did this revised recipe come out? I want to brew something between Jamil's Original Evil Twin recipe and this, I am wondering how the color came out on this. I really want a copper/amber color, trying to avoid going as dark as an american brown.

I'm sure that this got drunk a long time ago, but any comments would be great!

Thank You

I brewed this again today. Or, something very very similar anyway.

10 gallon batch
OG 1.062
IBUs: 56

20 lbs Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM)
2 lbs Weyermann Munich malt
1 lbs 8.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L
12.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L
12.0 oz Biscuit malt
2.0 oz Chocolate (Crisp)
2.0 oz Fawcett pale chocolate

2.00 oz Centennial [11.90 %] - Boil 20.0 min Hop 12 24.9 IBUs
2.00 oz Amarillo [9.50 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 13 14.8 IBUs
2.00 oz Amarillo [9.50 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 14 11.9 IBUs
1.00 oz Centennial [11.90 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 15 4.1 IBUs
2.00 oz Amarillo [9.50 %] - Boil 0.0 min Hop 16 0.0 IBUs

Oh, my goodness did I have a LOT of hops in the wort. The amarillo are all 2012 leaf hops, and they sure smelled great.

I used S05 in one fermenter, and WLP001 in the other.
 
Yooper,

How did this revised recipe come out? I want to brew something between Jamil's Original Evil Twin recipe and this, I am wondering how the color came out on this. I really want a copper/amber color, trying to avoid going as dark as an american brown.

I'm sure that this got drunk a long time ago, but any comments would be great!

Thank You

It was really good, but I wasn't wild about the color. It was more of a brownish than red, so for the next one I reduced the dark malt a bit more.

The last version I did was this one (this is 10 gallons, so everything is doubled!):

20 lbs Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) Grain 5 79.2 %
2 lbs Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 6 7.9 %
1 lbs 8.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 7 5.9 %
12.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (120.0 SRM) Grain 8 3.0 %
12.0 oz Victory Malt (25.0 SRM) Grain 9 3.0 %
2.0 oz Chocolate (Crisp) (630.0 SRM) Grain 10 0.5 %
2.0 oz Chocolate Malt (pale) (225.0 SRM) Grain 11 0.5 %

2.00 oz Centennial [11.90 %] - Boil 20.0 min Hop 12 24.9 IBUs
2.00 oz Amarillo [9.50 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 13 14.8 IBUs
2.00 oz Amarillo [9.50 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 14 11.9 IBUs
1.00 oz Centennial [11.90 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 15 4.1 IBUs
2.00 oz Amarillo [9.50 %] - Boil 0.0 min Hop 16 0.0 IBUs

the flavor was great but I still wasn't wild about the color. I think next time I'll just go with the pale chocolate and see if that's what I want, and maybe add carared instead of all of the crystal 40L.
 
What do you think about reducing the C-40 and C-120 a bit, dropping the chocolate altogether and maybe using 2-4 oz of pale chocolate?

Do you use beersmith? I do and feel like some recipes are spot on for color calculations and others turn out darker than expected. I brew all my batches on the same equipment and use pretty much the same process so I don't think it is inconsistencies there.

Thanks for the feedback! I plan to brew this next weekend and am really looking forward to it.
 
What do you think about reducing the C-40 and C-120 a bit, dropping the chocolate altogether and maybe using 2-4 oz of pale chocolate?

Do you use beersmith? I do and feel like some recipes are spot on for color calculations and others turn out darker than expected. I brew all my batches on the same equipment and use pretty much the same process so I don't think it is inconsistencies there.

Thanks for the feedback! I plan to brew this next weekend and am really looking forward to it.

The color isnt' really too dark (yes, I use Beersmith), but it's brown-er. It's brown in color, and I'd rather have it red/copper. That's why I'd cut the crystal 40, and replace with some cara-red and then use pale chocolate for a bit of color next time.
 
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