First Id like to say that this is not at offense to anyone who purchases from midwest or anything like that, I am just giving a warning about the merchandise this company sells. I have noticed that several things I purchased from midwest tends to be dented and dinged to hell. For example i purchased the dual kegging system from them, both my kegs had dents all over them one was dented where the input of the gas was. With the regulators that came with the system, they were very unreliable and annoying to adjust since it would sometimes just go up by itself. This caused over carbing to my beer, I called and they admitted it was the pin valve that was not working properly. So after i got that situation handled I posted a review of the kit and it has yet to be posted up on the sight after 2 weeks from when i put my review up. I dont care about what they sent to me any more I ordered a new regulator from beverage factory(hopefully it will work better, its the best one they have/the premium dual reg) But I just want to give people warning of some of the stuff they sell. Buy new if you actually decide to purchase from them..