This has become a regular fallback english pale ale. And good price. Fun to make too. Looks like Ill be getting another pint of this to compare it to the semi-aged one I made that I just put in the fridge tonight. So far I preferr the commerical version but I didnt exactly make it a clone either.Thats kinda my weakness as far as making clones. Just one or two things subbed just make it completley different. Burton ale yeast didnt exactly make this better.