Does it do that in a normal RIMS heater? I dunno
When I first saw the construction I thought: "Hey that's brilliant~!!" Then I got to thinking if I wanted to try something like that and then I got to wondering about it and the mechanics of the heat transfer.
So from my perspective you are out there on the cutting edge of DIY RIMS exploration "boldly going ~ ~ ~ " and all that.
I only recently decided not to go HERMS but to go RIMS. Electric was part of the package from the get go 'cause I'll be building and brewing in a close flammable environment (cellar of a wood structure) and I'd rather not have flames plus I want to keep my wort and brew as isolated from the atmosphere as I can. So, you might correctly guess that I'm watching your build closely.
Not to detract but 4500W RIMS elements have been used before.
Yah true true but that wasn't the totality of what I mean. I was addressing the over all design ethos the interesting and intimate attention to details and execution.
Any one can knock a hole in a pot and get a pipe fitting attached or install a heating element. Drills taps dies solder, wires purchased electronics, as you inferred, it's not rocket science.
This is someone however who loves to build beautiful things that work.
He is taking all that otherwise fairly pedestrian stuff and making it look like a combination of mechanical sculpture and rocket science together by virtue of the quality of execution.
couple of questions.
i've been thinking about building a 2 vessel system but instead of being no sparge i was thinking of using the rims tube for on demand sparge water-sort of a virtual hlt.do you think your tubes can heat up the water to sparge temps at fly sparge flow rates?
when your mash temp drops and you start recirculating the wort through the rims tube,how does the temperature controller know when wort has actually flooded the rims tube and its ok to spark up the elements?
cheers
martin
couple of questions.
i've been thinking about building a 2 vessel system but instead of being no sparge i was thinking of using the rims tube for on demand sparge water-sort of a virtual hlt.do you think your tubes can heat up the water to sparge temps at fly sparge flow rates? YES, I have done the calculations, and this heater has more than enough heating power to heat from 60F to 168F at normal sparge rates
when your mash temp drops and you start recirculating the wort through the rims tube,how does the temperature controller know when wort has actually flooded the rims tube and its ok to spark up the elements?
I dont need to know when the RIMS tube is flooded, because it is always flooded. The recirc will be running 100% of the time, as it does in most RIMS and HERMS systems. The only variable is whether or not the wort is below the set point or not, commanding the element ON. The wort is ALWAYS recirculating
cheers
martin
SOOO, I order a specific item off AMAZON... of course it is from a "seller" not Amazon directly. It is a Camco 02583 element... all I am using on this build.
I get an email from the seller showing they shipped me a RHEEM element... odd? So I go back and check Amazon... yup, shows I ordered a CAMCO, so I email the seller with my concern.
They tell me that Camco makes this element for Rheem and the SKU#'s are the same and it is the same thing. OK, sounds plausible.
I get home from a long trip and see that I recieved a cheap imitation CAMCO... it is a RHEEM, doesnt have the chrome coating, it weighs about HALF as much as the CAMCO and it is 1.25" longer and will not fit into my RIMS tube.
Same thing huh? Color me pissed. If I order a specific item, with a specific model #... DONT SEND ME IMITATION CRAP! What the heck is wrong with these people? Want to know the name of the seller so that you can avoid them?
I sent them an email tonight telling them how disappointed I am... how rediculous. It is the "same". Yeah, in the respect that they both heat water bone head.
Stress is caused by not being able to choke the xxxx out of some axehat that ....... well, you know.
.when your mash temp drops and you start recirculating the wort through the rims tube,how does the temperature controller know when wort has actually flooded the rims tube and its ok to spark up the elements?
I dont need to know when the RIMS tube is flooded, because it is always flooded. The recirc will be running 100% of the time, as it does in most RIMS and HERMS systems. The only variable is whether or not the wort is below the set point or not, commanding the element ON. The wort is ALWAYS recirculating
Pol, was the vendor Toolbox Supply? If so I'm gonna be really pissed; I just ordered 3!
Nope, it is BuyPlumbing. Here is what they say about themselves.
"BuyPlumbing...not just another new online retailer. We know what our customers want and go out of our way to satisfy them with quality products and outstanding customer service. So why go somewhere else when you can get it all here? Find kitchen and bath faucets, tubs, toilets, washlets, sinks, garbage disposals, plumbing accessories and parts here at BuyPlumbing. We've been there in the past and we'll be there in the future!"
Bottom line, they KNEW they sent me something OTHER than what I ordered, but did it knowing full well, that they did so. This wasnt a "mistake", this was an intentional substitute. For this reason, I left them crappy feedback. This isnt a matter of "how are you going to fix this mistake". It is a matter of KNOWING that you sent me something that I did not order, and then when I inquired, tried to pass off an inferior product as "the same" as what I ordered. Screw them and thier pitiful business.
Can you report them to Amazon for what is clearly a "bait and switch" scheme?
Pol, was the vendor Toolbox Supply? If so I'm gonna be really pissed; I just ordered 3!
FYI, dealing with this issue, I sent back to look at my OLD ORDERS and it shows that on the information page, the seller is LISTED as Toolbox Supply... then when I ordered it, it was shipped from BuyPlumbing...
Soo, you may very well be getting the same deal I got, on generic, cheapo elements. I am calling them today, to further discuss my displeasure.
On another note... if you are buying SSR + Heatsink combos from Asia Engineer on Ebay, you will need to source some mounting screws to mount the SSR to the Heatsink... I am using M4-.70 x 10 socket head cap screws.
Aww crap! Well we'll see, they shipped friday. I'm sure they'll be the same junk you've received.
I also HIGHLY recommend using heat sink grease to improve the thermal transfer from the SSR to the heat sink. Any Radio Shack should carry it - about $2 for a small tube.
I filed a complaint with Amazon today...
It occurred to me that you can go higher. What they did may be illegal if they did not state up front they reserve the right to substitute.
Aww crap! Well we'll see, they shipped friday. I'm sure they'll be the same junk you've received.
I also HIGHLY recommend using heat sink grease to improve the thermal transfer from the SSR to the heat sink. Any Radio Shack should carry it - about $2 for a small tube.
That will be fun to wire up!
Go with the $9 it has almost 100% concentration of silver. I forget the name but it is premium grease. The other products use a silicon base rather then silver.
Pol, did they refund your money? Mine are certainly from BuyPlumbing.
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