What would be the LEAST citrusy US hop(s)?

I want to move into a realm where I can make a fairly high IBU IPA but not get into that grapefruit/tangerine/citrus flavor/aroma.

Now of course I can go English hops, but what would be the US hops that would fit this description?

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Willamette is awesome, and not at all citrusy.

HairyDogBrewing said:

Willamette is awesome, and not at all citrusy.

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Second that! Willamette is one of my favorite hops. It blends well with the citrusy hops too if you want to have some citrus without going over the top.

Willamette makes me happy in ways which are impolite to mention in public.

I'll throw in for the Willamette too. Definitely not citrusy. Sort of reminds me of fuggles (is it a hybrid?). Anyways, makes a good pairing with goldings.

Terje

I was getting tired of the same old Cascade this and Cascade that so I'm getting ready to pop a keg of Amber Ale with Willamette...even dry hopped with it.

This turned from a "which american hop" thread into a "absolute mad love for the willamettes" thread. I likey

Stratotankard said:

Sort of reminds me of fuggles (is it a hybrid?).

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Fuggles is in the parentage of Willamette

Glacier is amazing also, pretty similar to Willamette. Some describe it as "peachy".

Budzu said:

Glacier is amazing also, pretty similar to Willamette. Some describe it as "peachy".

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Peachy...keen!!!

Chinook and Northern Brewer are a couple more.

Chinook, Cluster, NB, Willamette, Galena, Glacier, Magnum, Nugget, Warrior, Zeus

I'll throw in Sterling -- herbal and floral, not citrusy to my palate. supposedly a cross between saaz and Mt. Hood.

My favorite pale ale (7.5 gallons in my basement now) uses Sterling for bittering and finishes with wilamette. Yummy.

+ on Willamettes. I picked up a pound for $10 at my LHBS once and used them in pretty much everything I made for a few months. Though, they never gave me that really "hoppy" aroma/flavor I'd expect from an IPA (though, I'm a sucker for citrusy hops).

Rogue makes a great beer called Love and Hoppiness that they call a Pilsner/IPA hybrid... pilsner malt, Saaz and I believe Tett hops but to the IBU levels of an IPA, and pacman yeast. It's delicious.

You guys rock. Again!

homebrewer_99 said:

I was getting tired of the same old Cascade this and Cascade that so I'm getting ready to pop a keg of Amber Ale with Willamette...even dry hopped with it.

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Try blending the two...it's become my favorite hop combo ever.

You could go with U.S. Saaz, very tasty though it's a bit of a stretch to call them "American hops." +1 on Glacier, I also picked up a pound cheap and have loved them in many beers. I made a Glacier/U.S. Saaz Amber Ale that is now my favorite beer.

cluster + willamette makes a nice combo in the rye amber I put together. (In my drop down). The last time I made the recipe I upped the later additions though.

yep willamette would be the one, I don't like dry hopping with it though

+1 on Nugget and Mt. Hood

I think of Williamette as an english hop, even though it's clearly from the PNW...it is a great hop, though.

If I wanted to make an American IPA that was not citrus focused I'd probably use Magnum for bittering, and then utilize a lot of Northern Brewer (a piney hop) and maybe mix that with some williamette or some of the other hops mentioned by others....I like NB a lot, though. See Anchor steam beer to get a taste of NB if you're unfamiliar with it.

NB is a great hop, but I don't really think of it as a really American hop; IIRC, it's a cross of American and English varieties, now grown primarily in Germany and the US.

Great flavor, though. It is piney, with almost a hint of mint or something.

I've also used Liberty in place of Hallertau, particularly when you couldn't get a German hop even if you sold your firstborn. It was a non-offending hop, though I just used it for a base bitter, and didn't do anything to really glean a flavor or aroma from it.

Tonedef131 said:

Try blending the two...it's become my favorite hop combo ever.

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At what ratio? 1:1?

homebrewer_99 said:

At what ratio? 1:1?

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I go heavier on the cascades, probably more like 2:1 Cascade:Willamette.

Willamette has a nice woody flavor to it, similar to fuggle and maybe EKG

Palisade is another hop that doesn't come across as citrusy in my opinion.

How about Nugget? a high alpha hop with more of a herbal/spicy flavor.

Or Liberty? or Mt. Hood?

and a +1 for Willamette! Tasty!
--LexusChris

Try Crystal hops, very floral and delcious. A guy in my homebrew club made a IIPA with all Crystal and it was quite tasty. Definitely a little different from the typical west coast style hop bomb.

I like clusters, clean bittering, strong and cost effective. Not much aroma though.