For those of you that end up with such a clean fermenter (jealous!) are you siphoning or using a kettle valve? Because I use an IC and I do attempt to whirlpool and let it sit for an hour, but when I open the kettle valve, it is low enough on the kettle that the first thing that comes out is trub and gunk. I should get a pic next time, it is definitely not something that lays on the bottom like a powder or layer of yeast, it is like floating seaweed or something....just a floating bunch of gunk. It's not floating at the top of the wort, but it's not laying flat on the bottom either, so out it comes even though I do leave around a gallon with the worst of it. It doesn't bother me and the beer tastes fine, but looking at AnchorBock's picture, I never end up with a kettle that pretty. [Edit] I forgot to say I use whirlfloc tablets.