Help me build my Stout!!!

So I took this recipe from Brew Classic Stlyes but tweeked it a little.
I want to add DME to it but dont really know how much and what kind to use...can anyone here give me some advice or pointers???

Here is the recipe so far...please dissect it and add to it if needed.

Flaked Oats 1.25 lb
Chocolate Malt 1.00 lb
Victory Malt 1.00 lb
American Crystal 60L 0.5 lb
Black Roasted Barley 0.5 lb
American Two Row Malt 2.00 lbs

DME: ???

Hops:
Kent Goldings 5% AA, 60 mins 1.8oz

Yeast:
Wyeast 1968 London ESB

Any information or help would be great, thank you.

- Brian

I made nearly the same recipe a few weeks back. The only difference was I used tettnang hops and only .5# Chocolate. I used 6# bulk Pale LME. It got the OG up to 1.056. It has been in the carboy for almost two weeks and every time I do a SG reading I get to taste it. It's very tasty already, just not as dark as I would have wished. Sounds like that extra half pound of chocolate will do it good.

So use LME Pale Ale...but how much, maybe like 5.5lbs or even 6.00 lbs?

Use liquid or dry light extract(pale, M.O., etc) and use enough to get to your target gravity.
If you don't have software use something like TastyBrew.com | Recipe Calculation

Good yeast, good hops

I would rather use DME than LME. Im still wondering how much though???

how about DME English Pale Ale 6lbs?

how big do you want it

Copied from http://www.tastybrew.com/calculators/recipe.html
16C. Stout, Oatmeal Stout Partial

Color

Stats
OG 1.085
FG 1.021
IBU 35
ABV 8.3 %
SRM 42

Specifics
Boil Volume 3 gallons
Batch Size 5 gallons
Yeast 75% AA

Style Comparison
Low High
OG 1.035 1.085 1.060
FG 1.010 1.021 1.018
IBU 20 35 50
SRM 42 35+
ABV 3.3 8.3 6



Fermentables
% Weight Weight (lbs) Grain Gravity Points Color
49.0 % 6.00 Light Dry Malt Extract 54.0 2.4
16.3 % 2.00 American Two-row Pale 11.1 0.7
10.2 % 1.25 Flaked Oats 6.2 0.6
8.2 % 1.00 American Chocolate 4.4 70.0
8.2 % 1.00 American Victory 5.1 5.0
4.1 % 0.50 American Crystal 60L 2.6 6.0
4.1 % 0.50 Roasted Barley 2.2 45.0
12.25 85.5

Hops
% Wt Weight (oz) Hop Form AA% AAU Boil Time Utilization IBU
100.0 % 1.80 East Kent Goldings Whole/Plug 5.0 9.0 60 0.038 34.6
1.80 34.6

I want the batch size for 5 gallons

by big, I think he meant abv. not batch size

Ohhhhh abv...well anything from 6-8 would be nice.

I'm at work so I don;t have beersmith in front of me, but if memory serves that recipe would get you about 6% if you added 4.5lbs DME. 6lbs would get you closer to the 8% mark and make it an imperial stout.

So use 4.5 lbs of DME then??? I dont really want an Imperial...

That's a guess, I can plug it in later and get a better idea. But you may want to look into downloading a copy of beersmith. You can plug in your ingredients and tell it what style you are looking for and it will compare the two. You can adjust your recipe and see how it affects your ABV and FG numbers.

I have beersmith at home, I am also at work.

A very important question I forgot to ask. Are you partial mashing or steeping? Given the fair amount of grains I assumed partial mash.

Yes partial mashing...

Like I said I dont want an Imperial Stout...I want a nice smooth stout.
So maybe I will go with 5.00lbs DME Pale Ale instead of 6.00lbs.

if a recipe contains pale 2 row grain, you can replace 1 pound of 2 row with .6 pounds DME or .75 pounds LME...

also, what crystal malt do you want to use?

Crystal 60L Malt

The recipe is not 100% yet, not even close. We will dissect it a few times.

If you make the beer too "big" by adding more DME you'll throw the ratios off for bittering and roasty flavor. That's the Oatmeal Stout recipe by the looks of it and with the recipe as is was decent size beer already.

About 4lbs to 4.5lbs LDME and a 60% pm efficiency would come out around 1.055 for around 5.5% ABV as you stand right now.

BrianTheBrewer said:

I want the batch size for 5 gallons

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If you brew this for 5.5 gallons, your recipe comes a lot closer to a "BJCP" oatmeal stout. tweaking the black malt and chocolate malt also allows you to get closer to the range suggest for the SRM. If we start the boil at 6.5 gallons and boil off 1 gallon, we should be in decent shape.