at the risk of getting blasted here, i wanted to post a technique i used to chill my wort. the brew shop that got me into this mess provides my malt in a tub - about 2 liters. i took said tub and cleaned it, sanitized it and filled with boiled water. then i froze the tub to create a "wortcicle". after the wort was off the boil, i inserted the large cube of ice and watched the temps fall. so, let the debate begin - did i ruin a batch or should we all be filling our kettles with ice - sanitized and boiled of course. what think ye?