I'm a beginning extract brewer (seems redundant). I've brewed several times and am considering a wort chiller instead of an ice bath. I was considering the therminator as my first big brewing purchase but the more I read the more I realized I would need to invest in a hop stopper, add on a ball valve to my pot and possibly a pump. I'm pretty lazy and don't have the money for all the extra's (hop stopper etc.). Is it possible or recommended to use an autosiphon to the primary with the therminator. Is there a more effective way than whirlpooling to filter the trub from the wort using the autosiphon so that I could use the therminator? And finally, is it even safe to use the autosiphon in 212 degree wort to begin with?