One week into fermentation of my ale and I have a very Bitter/Sour taste

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So just took a sample of my beer to se ehow its comming along since fermentation has slowed down. Using Wyeast1056 american ale i used 2lbs of DME .5lbs of crystal malt that I steeped. Added some irish moss, giner zest and lemon peel at end of boil. Also used tettnager hops for bittering and Citra for 1mn boil for aroma. So its one week one day and took a sample and got a very bitter/sour taste from the first sip (guess would be at the nose). Would this be spoiled or something.

Did i mess up when steeping the grains giving it this bitter taste at the nose. though I did sample this maybe 3 days into fermentation and was not too bitter at all deffinetly not the way it is today.

Should I wait it out and throw it into a secondary to clear out?
 
RDWHAHB, and give it a few weeks in primary for the yeast to clean up after themselves. I never primary for fewer than 3 weeks.
 
What is this "RDWHAHB" Sorry im somewhat new to this. LOL. This is only my 3rd batch so far tried making up my own recipe. I get bored easily by following other recipes.
 
Don't taste it....;)

Seriously, fermenting beer taste like crap quite often, it can taste sour, yeasty, like green apples, or any number of things. Same with smell.

It's giving off any number of nasty compounds during fermentation, that the yeast will go back and clean up AFTER fermentation is over, during the 2 conditioning phases, the one that happens at the end of fermentation and in the bottle.

So relax, don't worry.... and read this.

Singljohn hit the nail on the head...The only problem is that you aren't seeing the beer through it's complete process BEFORE calling what is probably just green beer, an off flavor.

It sounds like you are tasting it in the fermenter? If that is the case, do nothing. Because nothing is wrong.

It really is hard to judge a beer until it's been about 6 weeks in the bottle. Just because you taste (or smell) something in primary or secondary DOESN'T mean it will be there when the beer is fully conditioned (that's also the case with kegging too.)

The thing to remember though is that if you are smelling or tasting this during fermentation not to worry. During fermentation all manner of stinky stuff is given off (ask lager brewers about rotten egg/sulphur smells, or Apfelwein makers about "rhino farts,") like we often say, fermentation is often ugly AND stinky and PERFECTLY NORMAL.

It's really only down the line, AFTER the beer has been fermented (and often after it has bottle conditioned even,) that you concern yourself with any flavor issues if they are still there.

I think too many new brewers focus to much on this stuff too early in the beer's journey. And they panic unnecessarily.

A lot of the stuff you smell/taste initially more than likely ends up disappearing either during a long primary/primary & secondary combo, Diacetyl rests and even during bottle conditioning.

If I find a flavor/smell, I usually wait til it's been in the bottle 6 weeks before I try to "diagnose" what went wrong, that way I am sure the beer has passed any window of greenness.

Lagering is a prime example of this. Lager yeast are prone to the production of a lot of byproducts, the most familiar one is sulphur compounds (rhino farts) but in the dark cold of the lagering process, which is at the minimum of a month (I think many homebrewers don't lager long enough) the yeast slowly consumes all those compounds which results in extremely clean tasting beers if done skillfully.

Ales have their own version of this, but it's all the same. Time is your friend.

If you are sampling your beer before you have passed a 'window of greeness" which my experience is about 3-6 weeks in the bottle, then you are more than likely just experiencing an "off flavor" due to the presence of those byproducts (that's what we mean when we say the beer is "green" it's still young and unconditioned.) but once the process is done, over 90% of the time the flavors/smells are gone.

Of the remaining 10%, half of those may still be salvageable through the long time storage that I mention in the Never dump your beer!!! Patience IS a virtue!!! Time heals all things, even beer:

And the remaining 50% of the last 10% are where these tables and lists come into play. To understand what you did wrong, so you can avoid it in the future.

Long story short....I betcha that smell/flavor will be long gone when the beer is carbed and conditioned.

In other words, relax, your beer will be just fine, like 99.5%.

You can find more info on that in here;

Of Patience and Bottle Conditioning.

Just remember it will not be the same beer it is now, and you shouldn't stress what you are tasting right now.

Our beer is more resilient then most new brewers realize, and time can be a big healer. Just read the stories in this thread of mine, and see how many times a beer that someone thought was bad, turned out to be fine weeks later.

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f39/ne...virtue-time-heals-all-things-even-beer-73254/
 
Oh, sounds cool. Like the advice. i just remember seeing on some show wher ethey are brewing beer and the german brewer was trying out the wort to see how it taste's. Oh, and what is RDWHAHB?
 
Oh, sounds cool. Like the advice. i just remember seeing on some show wher ethey are brewing beer and the german brewer was trying out the wort to see how it taste's. Oh, and what is RDWHAHB?

Oh I'd say definitely taste it, just remember like Revvy said it will not taste like finished beer. But by tasting your samples you will get a feel for how the finished beer is going to taste. Say you brew the same beer multiple times and take a gravity reading after X# of days, by tasting it and comparing it to what you tasted in the previous samples you might be able to identify if something is not going the way you'd hoped.
 
Three batches in and you're making up your own recipes? Get some experience under your belt by brewing some tried and true recipes, or at least model a recipe of your own off of a recipe someone else has brewed successfully.
 
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