I just saved the yeast off of my Fat Ass Tired. I had a near boil over, and a good hot break. So my trub finally was two colored, dark below (hops?) and a whiter layer above. I swirled the left over beer that I had left in the carboy gently and it seemed to dissolve the yeast pretty good, leaving the hops sludge. Then I poured the liquid into a beer bottle and capped it. I think I got more yeast and less flavor than I usually do. This will be the 4th time I use this yeast. Originally Cal V liquid. Flat assed tired, Brown Rye, Flat Assed tired, probably F.A.T. again next time. I do make a starter when I use the bottled stuff. Not if I have a frsh batch starting, then I pour the yeast from one carboy to the next, leaving most of the trub behind.
Since one cup of sludge is adequite for re-pitching, I think trying to swirl the yeast off the top of the hops, and using only 8-12 oz in a 640oz batch won't transfer much of the dark flavors to a light batch.