c.n.budz
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Found this on msnbc
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20249460/
It'll probably never happen, but 18 makes sense to me...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20249460/
It'll probably never happen, but 18 makes sense to me...
Beerrific said:In Louisiana the drinking laws are worded very careful as to not make it black and white 21-year-old drinking age. Alcohol can be consumed by anyone (I guess over 18) as long as it is private. Alcohol can not be purchased for someone under 21 unless it is by the parent/guardian or spouse. So, if your parents buy you boose, you can drink in private, but your parents can't give any of it to your friends.
Fingers said:18 years old to drink here in Manitoba. I already had a full time job and my own place. Can't get much more grown up than that.
Beerrific said:In Louisiana the drinking laws are worded very careful as to not make it black and white 21-year-old drinking age. Alcohol can be consumed by anyone (I guess over 18) as long as it is private. Alcohol can not be purchased for someone under 21 unless it is by the parent/guardian or spouse. So, if your parents buy you boose, you can drink in private, but your parents can't give any of it to your friends.
I think that is fair.
But Mark Rosenker, chairman of the National Transportation Safety Board, countered: Why would we repeal or weaken laws that save lives? It doesnt make sense.
Cheesefood said:Everyone here excited about the thought of their daughter being able to legally go into a bar and get drunk on the night of her 18th birthday, say "AYE!"
TheJadedDog said:I'd rather she be in a bar than in some frat house which is where she's gonna be if it's illegal for her to drink in the bar.
rdwj said:As a parent, I think it's fine if you want to let your kid drink at whatever age you deem appropriate. I know I plan to let my kids drink when they're younger than 21, but I think it's good that it's not legal without MY approval.
TheJadedDog said:I'd rather she be in a bar than in some frat house which is where she's gonna be if it's illegal for her to drink in the bar.
seefresh said:If my parents tried to "parent" me after I turned 18, I would have laughed and walked away. They understood I was an adult and did not make decisions for me anymore. That's how it should be.
seefresh said:When you are 18 you take on responsibility for yourself. You are an adult. Our government needs to treat us that way. If my parents tried to "parent" me after I turned 18, I would have laughed and walked away. They understood I was an adult and did not make decisions for me anymore. That's how it should be.
Oh, and Cheese, it should be 18 for men, 30 for women.
Cheesefood said:The people who want the age lowered to 18 are those who will profit off of increased sales. This is less of a libertarian issue and more of a capitalist idea.
Get kids drinking earlier, and their tolerance goes up quicker. Therefore, they'll soon go from splitting a case with 6 friends to drinking the case by themselves. Also, it gives marketing companies the opportunity to brand people at a more impressionable age.
It makes no sense to lower the drinking age. The last thing we need is another consumption item to make people fatter, lazier and dumber at a younger age. This isn't Europe where you can walk or bike to most places. The U.S. was built for the automobile and as such it means we need to be more careful about who we let drive.
Now, I'm not opposed to allowing the sale of alcohol to people under 21 in the presence of a parent. I'd actually support that, as it would give kids an opportunity to learn responsible drinking.
Cheesefood said:In retrospect, I'm kinda of happy about the parenting my parents gave me when I was 18. While I was "legally" an adult, in no way would I say I was responsible or able to make intelligent, informed decisions. I don't think that you magically go from kid to adult on the night of your 18th birthday.
Evan! said:Care to back that up with facts? Personally, I have nothing to gain from it. So what about me?
Evan! said:This very well may be true, and the motives of the alcohol industry very well may be sinister. But that doesn't speak to the validity of the argument in any way. Most of us can agree that slavery was a bad thing and needed to be repealed...but if there happened to be an "evil corporation" that stood to profit off of abolition, would it make any difference? No, abolition would still be just as valid. Just because the alcohol industry supports lowering the age (supposedly) does not speak one bit to whether the idea itself is valid; such an argument is a logical fallacy:
seefresh said:Well, I wasn't sheltered as a teenager and I started working when I was 14. I bought my own car before I turned 15, I started forming my own opinion when I was 13... I was more than ready to assume responsibility by the time I was 18, I moved out of my parents when I was 17! Anyone will be responsible if their parents don't baby them and make them think they are children. I was a man by the time I was 18. I'm sorry, but if you go through puberty at 12 and 13, 5 years is more than enough time to learn about life and what you need to do with yourself.
Cheesefood said:
"The people who want the age lowered to 18 are those who will profit off of increased sales."
It was called "The Cotton Industry". Why do you think it took so much effort to abolish slavery?
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