I just wasted an hour driving around at night in the rain looking for the meeting at Arizona Society of Homebrewers. The only directions I got was it was at BJ's brewery in Chandler (population about 500,000). No address or cross street or anything. Looked up their address were they were suppose to be on the Internet but when my wife and I went to look, we couldn't find it anywhere. Guess what! They don't believe in putting up building numbers in Chandler. My guess is if they did that you might figure out where the hell you are. After an hour, we gave up and went to Chey's for drinks. I was looking forward to the Octoberfest this Saturday but now I can't. It's for members only and I can't join if I can find the f**king meeting! I've never been to BJ's but I'm suppose to read someone mind on how to get there. Thanks a lot A** H***! The local brew stores don't know when or where the Octoberfest is at and they don't have any signup sheets to join ASH like I was told by the club president when I emailed him. I was hoping to meet a group of people to show me how to brew some great beer. I want to join but am not getting any help from their group at all with a simple task of "Where the hell are you?". If that's how you're going to be then KISS MY ASS! That's my rant.