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Schlenkerla.....you were the one voice of reason in all of this. Thank you. You obviously come from a good upbringing and were taught diplomacy and that people have a right to express their thoughts without being berated. Kind of like myself. I see ten things per day on HBT that really...

Ahhhhh.....an AZ_IPA cronie. How sweet. He must be someone that you look up to, right? Go back and re-read my posts. I never said that newbies shouldn't sanitize. I said that if I can brew great beers with no sanitizer then they shouldn't worry about minor sanitizing mistakes. How many...

Hey....I said "you win", ok? Really. Walk away with your head held high and your chest puffed out. You win, brother. Those PM's told me all I need to know. Good fortune to you and yours.

LOL! Funny thing is....I've already received about five private messages about what a trouble-making butt you are. Ok......you win. And BTW.....you're obviously a real hit with your fellow forum members. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks! Are you done now?

I'm mellow, dude. Really. But I'm not gonna have people that don't like my opinions attacking me without a defense. Go back and read from the beginning. You'll see how this escalated and got completely off-topic. I stated an opinion that obviously isn't popular and suddenly I was put on the...

Where was the debate? All I could garner was that you and your cohort didn't like the idea that I didn't like using Star-San because I didn't think it was all that safe. Next thing I knew, I was being told that I was telling newbies not to sanitize!!!! LOL! I'm always open for debate but...

Man...LOL....it must really hurt you to the core when people don't do things your way, huh?

I hear ya', brother. If you'll re-read my posts, you'll see what my intent was. It wasn't to advocate against sanitizing. It was to demonstrate to newbies that if I can brew beer without using a sanitizer, they shouldn't worry about minor sanitizing mistakes that they might make. Everything...

Fine! As long as in the future you don't jump into a thread with an off-topic argument and then when you get your little fanny spanked, run back to the topic to try and defend your actions. K? Thanks.

Well then do yourself a big favor and in the future, stay off of my threads. You obviously don't agree with how I brew beer. So let's just avoid the head-butting. Fair enough?

Furthermore, you only jumped into this conversation whenever your holy Star-San got criticized. So YOU stop being so defensive where your sanitizer is concerned. It's stupid. Good grief! Some of you guys get plumb silly over that damned sanitizer. Is there some drug hidden inside of it or...

Go back and show me where I said "not to sanitize"! If you'll re-read my posts you'll note that I said sanitizing is cheap and easy and SHOULD be done. Don't tell me not to get "defensive" when you're attempting to twist my posts. Of course I'm going to get defensive.

I've already stated why I WOULDN'T use a no-rinse sanitizer. You obviously just want me to agree with you because you don't like the idea that someone's not doing it the way YOU'RE doing it. You keep using your Star-San and I'll keep using my bleach and "nothing at all" and we'll both be...

I've read TONS of posts wherein bleach was criticized as bad for the beer and bad for the person. I know that many people use no-rinse sanitizers with no problems. I only stated that I refused to use them. Am I not entitled to say that? And I'm happy for the people that wish to use...

About as ironic as the people on the forum that swear that using chlorine bleach to sanitize is bad for you! What I'm sensing here is that the Star-San company has a whole lot of loyal customers that don't like their sanitzer of choice being questioned. LOL!!!! Think about it. The fact that...

My municipality doesn't use it.

That's very true but...... What about the people that lose batches to infection even though they cleaned with sanitizer? What do they have bring back? From what I've read, your chances of losing a batch to infection is about the same with our without sanitizer. Again.....please re-read...

Depends on the "science" you're speaking of. Some science says that we humans are creating global warming. Other science says we're not! Did you know that back in the fifties and early sixties, doctors (and they're scientists) appeared on television and sang the praises about the health...

I have zero faith in leave-in sanitizers. It's just a phobia that I have. I don't like the idea of drinking the residue of a disinfectant. I don't care how much they say "it won't hurt you." I'd rather rinse because I trust my tap water. I've seen what municipalities have to go through on a...