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Old 04-13-2009, 10:44 PM   #4811
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Anyone ever cold crash apfelwein? Kind of pointless right now at 7 weeks since it is totally clear...but I had some kolsch in my fermentation chamber with it so decided to just cold crash everything. I put the temp down to 40 a couple days ago, and will be going down to 35 for another few days. Any idea what effect, if any, this will have on the AW?
I have done that before to speed up clearing. The yeast won't be too happy about it if the temp change is too quick, but it doesn't affect the flavor of the AW.


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Old 04-14-2009, 02:22 AM   #4812
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Anyone ever cold crash apfelwein? Kind of pointless right now at 7 weeks since it is totally clear...but I had some kolsch in my fermentation chamber with it so decided to just cold crash everything. I put the temp down to 40 a couple days ago, and will be going down to 35 for another few days. Any idea what effect, if any, this will have on the AW?
Most commercial wineries do this to drop out the yeast. Even if it appears clear there is still a lot of yeast in there so crash cooling will still help.
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Old 04-14-2009, 03:35 AM   #4813
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Any thoughts on if this is an okay recipe for a first timer to cut their teeth on? I would like to have a batch ready at the end of October, and while it looks like it is drinkable after a month the first page also mentions waiting 6 months so I am not sure if I need to start this project fairly soon to have a good flavor by then. I suppose I should also ask about equipment costs for starting this, though from the looks of it I am not expecting anything crazy.
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Any thoughts on if this is an okay recipe for a first timer to cut their teeth on? I would like to have a batch ready at the end of October, and while it looks like it is drinkable after a month the first page also mentions waiting 6 months so I am not sure if I need to start this project fairly soon to have a good flavor by then. I suppose I should also ask about equipment costs for starting this, though from the looks of it I am not expecting anything crazy.
Definitely a good first recipe. And, the earlier you start, the better it will be in October.

Basic equipment and approximate costs (cheapest solution):
5g Better bottle $28
Stopper $2
Airlock $2
Autosiphon $12
Vinyl tubing $5
Bottling wand $7
Bottling bucket $15
Star-san $12
Subtotal: $83

Ingredients and approximate costs:
5g Apple juice $19
2lbs Dextrose $6
1pkt Montrachet yeast $0.60
Subtotal: $26

Total: $109, repeated cost for further batches: $25-$26 (depends on whether you re-pitch onto the yeast cake)
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You don't need fancy equipment for this really... Wine has been made for thousands of years without autosiphons and special wine fermenters!

Apfelwein Ghetto Style:

Homer bucket and lid: $4 (yes these are #2 plastic so they are safe to use)
#2 drilled stopper and 3pc airlock: $2
Saved, rinsed and sanitized juice bottles: FREE
Large funnel: you probably already have one, if not: $2
Small funnel: you probably already have one, if not: $1
Campden tablets: $2
4 gallons apple juice: $16
2# corn sugar: $4
1 pkt wine yeast: $1

Drill a 5/8" hole in the lid for the airlock.

Crush two campden tablets and add to a 1 gallon jug of cool water. This will be your sanitizing solution. Clean all equipment which will touch your wine or juice well with soap and water and rinse well with hot water. Then rinse with the sanitizing solution last.

Ferment in the bucket until fermentation dies down, about 2 weeks. Then gently pour the fermented wine into the sanitized saved juice bottles through your sanitized funnel, leaving 1/2" space at the top of each bottle. Tighten down the caps and then back them off 1/2 turn so gas can escape. Let sit until clear, 2-4 weeks and you have still wine.

If you want carbonated Apfelwein, you will need to buy a capper ($20) and some caps ($2), and have plenty of non-screwtop type beer bottles on hand to fill the batch, about 12 per gallon of wine. Or, you can use Grolsch-style flip tops, no capper required. Add 4oz of corn sugar to the bucket and slowly pour the contents of each bottle into the bucket (try to avoid splashing). Stir gently with a sanitized spoon to dissolve the sugar. Then use a small sanitized funnel and sanitized measuring cup or drinking glass dipped in the bucket to fill each sanitized bottle.

It's so easy even my cave dog could do it.
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Ya know, I've got 5 gals working now but I've been thinking...I've got 3 empty 15 gallon demijohns, I should put at least one of them to good use.

I can only imagine the looks I'll be getting buying 15 gallons of apple juice at the market...
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Ya know, I've got 5 gals working now but I've been thinking...I've got 3 empty 15 gallon demijohns, I should put at least one of them to good use.

I can only imagine the looks I'll be getting buying 15 gallons of apple juice at the market...
Go ahead and throw a few cartons of activa yogurt in the cart too.

I guess you could say I made mine today half ghetto-style. (I wonder how frustrated I would be if it were my simple recipe everyone kept screwing around with)
I went with surplus mr. beer sugar which is dried corn syrup, and an ale yeast. I had a control where I filled a 2nd mr. beer with dextrose, but of course I got them mixed up. Then I will have to decide later whether I can throw both of them together in one keg or do I have to bottle. Is there anybody who prefers noncarbed AW?
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I can only imagine the looks I'll be getting buying 15 gallons of apple juice at the market...
I've gotten that look at Smart & Final, buying just 5 gallons. When I tell them I'm using it to make wine, their eyes narrow and the look turns into a stare.
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I bought 5 gallons of apple juice and the biggest, cheapest bottle of vodka. I got the odd look, the skeptical look (when I mentioned I make wine and beer), and now every time I go through I think I still get odd looks from the lady that usually checks me out. Doesn't help either that I buy diet pepsi in bulk either (I spent almost 200$ this last time it was on sale).
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I had an idea. I dont know if anyone has tried this, and i didnt want to search all 100 pages to find out.

Anyone use the applejuice jug as the fermenter?

Add the corn sugar and yeast to the jug. Poke a pinhole in a condom or balloon and put over the top.



I figure when its done, i will pull the condom off and put the cap back on quickly. Now you have 1 gallon of uncarbonate apfelwein in a convenient and discreet travel container.

Any reason why this isnt going to work? Its bubbling nicely right now.


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