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Old 01-10-2013, 11:06 PM   #1
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Default Beer made my mouth and throat numb

I found 3 topics about this and already read through them all trying to figure this out. Since it's the same thing I brew all the time, just a basic pale ale, extract, mini mash. I have deduced that it's because I put the fermentor(glass carboy), up on the top shelf of the metal shelving unit in my craft room, covered with a dark colored, low thread count sheet(same as I cover all of them). I moved it because I needed the floor space more than I needed that shelf space. The room is climate controlled for the temps I need for the ones on the floor. After I had already moved it to the floor, I thought I should have taken it's temperature on the shelf first, too late now, been all day on the floor now. But it had to be warmer up high than on the floor.

After reading through these topics, I have deduced that the higher fermenting temp, from being on a top shelf, instead of the floor in the darkest corner of the room, it produced phenols, the cause of the numbing sensation. Do you think I am correct? Now I just leave it on the floor for another week or 2 and taste it again before bottling or kegging? Right?

These are the topics here about it, all at least 2 years old:
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f39/beer...h-numb-166500/
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f39/beer...l-numb-161653/
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f39/weir...trying-288479/

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I am no help as I have never heard of such a phenomenon. As I think about it, I don't even know why I posted a comment. LOL

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Old 01-10-2013, 11:17 PM   #3
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It's numbing from a hydrometer sample? Or a full pint? I guess I don't exactly follow what's going on.

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I ended up drinking about 1/2 pint, but the numbing started right after the first couple sips, went away after about 30 minutes so then I tasted it again, a couple sips, mouth is numb and feels a little funny to swallow. After 1/2 pint, my lips feeling a little numb too.

Added: I didn't do any OG readings because it's my normal brew, I just go by taste and appearance.

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I ended up drinking about 1/2 pint, but the numbing started right after the first couple sips, went away after about 30 minutes so then I tasted it again, a couple sips, mouth is numb and feels a little funny to swallow. After 1/2 pint, my lips feeling a little numb too.

Added: I didn't do any OG readings because it's my normal brew, I just go by taste and appearance.
that sounds like an allergic reaction. Have you got anyone else to try it? That way you will know if it is the beer... or you
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It's the same thing I brew all the time!! I have already ruled out an allergic reaction. The many others from the same exact kit do not make my mouth numb. I doubt I could get hubby to try it and he's the only one here. He's on chemo anyway and can't have any alcohol.

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I found 3 topics about this and already read through them all trying to figure this out. Since it's the same thing I brew all the time, just a basic pale ale, extract, mini mash. I have deduced that it's because I put the fermentor(glass carboy), up on the top shelf of the metal shelving unit in my craft room, covered with a dark colored, low thread count sheet(same as I cover all of them). I moved it because I needed the floor space more than I needed that shelf space. The room is climate controlled for the temps I need for the ones on the floor. After I had already moved it to the floor, I thought I should have taken it's temperature on the shelf first, too late now, been all day on the floor now. But it had to be warmer up high than on the floor.

After reading through these topics, I have deduced that the higher fermenting temp, from being on a top shelf, instead of the floor in the darkest corner of the room, it produced phenols, the cause of the numbing sensation. Do you think I am correct? Now I just leave it on the floor for another week or 2 and taste it again before bottling or kegging? Right?

These are the topics here about it, all at least 2 years old:
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f39/beer...h-numb-166500/
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f39/beer...l-numb-161653/
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f39/weir...trying-288479/
When you have narrowed it down to exactly what the cause is, please post the recipe that caused these symptoms as I will need to use this brew on SWMBO.
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Same thing happened to me with Penicillin. Used it for many years then one time I took it for an infected tooth I got hives and bad allergic reaction. Now I am allergic to Penicillin. Maybe this is what happened with your brew. Best solution, have someone else try it and see if it affects them.

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id be surprised if the temp was too much warmer on the upper shelf if the whole room is temp controlled

how does it taste? i'd imagine if it was phenol related you'd easily taste it

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When you have narrowed it down to exactly what the cause is, please post the recipe that caused these symptoms as I will need to use this brew on SWMBO.
LOL, sure, and maybe I can put a carboy of water on that shelf and be able to tell you the exact fermenting temperature to used!! I have brewed at least 8 of these kits and they always turn out great. That's why I figured it had to be something to do with higher fermenting temp, on the shelf as opposed to on the floor in a dark corner, but I had it covered with a dark sheet, thought it would be okay.
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