Double IPA Feedback/Criticism

I am not a hoppy beer brewer by any means. I brew pretty much belgian style abbey beers and saisons. But, I have a sudden interest in hoppy brews since it's summer and I'm building my keezer. Hoppy beers would seem to be better on tap than in bottles as well. I'm looking for some feedback on the below recipe. I've been reading Mitch Steele's IPA book and trying to make my own recipe from what I've read. Hop schedules have always tripped me up. I've done a few American Pale Ales but nothing too crazy. Let me know what you guys think! Thanks!

Recipe: Double IPA #2
Brewer: Gus
Asst Brewer:
Style: Imperial IPA
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (30.0)

Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 8.97 gal
Post Boil Volume: 7.28 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 6.00 gal
Bottling Volume: 5.25 gal
Estimated OG: 1.087 SG
Estimated Color: 8.0 SRM
Estimated IBU: 95.2 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 70.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 82.8 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
11 lbs 8.0 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 59.0 %
6 lbs Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) Grain 2 30.8 %
1 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 3 5.1 %
0.50 oz Citra [12.00 %] - First Wort 90.0 min Hop 4 16.3 IBUs
1 lbs Corn Sugar (Dextrose) (0.0 SRM) Sugar 5 5.1 %
0.50 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Boil 90.0 min Hop 6 16.0 IBUs
0.50 oz Citra [12.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 7 13.8 IBUs
1.00 oz Mosaic [12.50 %] - Boil 20.0 min Hop 8 17.4 IBUs
0.50 oz Citra [12.00 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 9 5.0 IBUs
0.50 oz Mosaic [12.50 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 10 5.2 IBUs
0.50 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 11 5.4 IBUs
0.50 oz Mosaic [12.50 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 12 2.9 IBUs
0.50 oz Citra [12.00 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 20.0 Hop 13 4.2 IBUs
0.50 oz Mosaic [12.50 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 20.0 Hop 14 4.4 IBUs
0.50 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 20.0 Hop 15 4.5 IBUs
1.0 pkg California Ale V (White Labs #WLP051) [3 Yeast 16 -


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Light Body, Batch Sparge
Total Grain Weight: 19 lbs 8.0 oz
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Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Mash In Add 26.32 qt of water at 161.5 F 148.0 F 75 min

Sparge: Batch sparge with 2 steps (Drain mash tun , 5.41gal) of 168.0 F water
Notes:

It looks good.

Personally, I like more crystal, and more late hop additions, but it is all personal!

The other feedback I got was more late hops in the additions I have or more additions. I think I may just ramp up what I have and push the IBUs higher to balance out. Then add some dry hopping to it as well.

Thanks for your input!


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Aside from dry hops, all I would say is don't bitter with citra and simcoe, move them to later I'm the boil and use magnum or nugget or warrior to fwh and bitter


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ddicker60 said:

Aside from dry hops, all I would say is don't bitter with citra and simcoe, move them to later I'm the boil and use magnum or nugget or warrior to fwh and bitter


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I'll definitely consider that. I've read Citra and Simcoe both are wonderful bittering hops. Thanks!

I like munich / 60L in my ipa's. It gives you that sweetness to balance out the bitterness. I would also go with dicker's advice and bitter with nugget. I'm sure you won't be disappointed. These are obviously my preferences but other than that it seems very solid.

BigTuna said:

I like munich / 60L in my ipa's. It gives you that sweetness to balance out the bitterness. I would also go with dicker's advice and bitter with nugget. I'm sure you won't be disappointed. These are obviously my preferences but other than that it seems very solid.

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I am a fan of there being sweetness to balance out the bitterness of the hops for sure! I tweaked it a little bit with some of the hops that I have at the house and changed it to Crystal 60 instead of 40 as well.

See the updated recipe.


Recipe: Double IPA #2
Brewer: Gus
Asst Brewer:
Style: Imperial IPA
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (30.0)

Recipe Specifications
--------------------------
Boil Size: 8.97 gal
Post Boil Volume: 7.28 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 6.00 gal
Bottling Volume: 5.25 gal
Estimated OG: 1.087 SG
Estimated Color: 9.3 SRM
Estimated IBU: 106.5 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 70.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 82.8 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
11 lbs 8.0 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 59.0 %
6 lbs Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) Grain 2 30.8 %
1 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 3 5.1 %
1 lbs Corn Sugar (Dextrose) (0.0 SRM) Sugar 4 5.1 %
1.00 oz Warrior [15.00 %] - Boil 90.0 min Hop 5 37.0 IBUs
0.50 oz Citra [12.00 %] - Boil 20.0 min Hop 6 8.4 IBUs
0.50 oz Mosaic [12.50 %] - Boil 20.0 min Hop 7 8.7 IBUs
0.50 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Boil 20.0 min Hop 8 9.1 IBUs
1.00 oz Citra [12.00 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 9 5.5 IBUs
1.00 oz Mosaic [12.50 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 10 5.7 IBUs
1.00 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 11 6.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Citra [12.00 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 20.0 Hop 12 8.4 IBUs
1.00 oz Mosaic [12.50 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 20.0 Hop 13 8.7 IBUs
1.00 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 20.0 Hop 14 9.1 IBUs
1.0 pkg California Ale V (White Labs #WLP051) [3 Yeast 15 -
1.50 oz Citra [12.00 %] - Dry Hop 7.0 Days Hop 16 0.0 IBUs
1.50 oz Mosaic [12.50 %] - Dry Hop 7.0 Days Hop 17 0.0 IBUs
1.50 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Dry Hop 7.0 Days Hop 18 0.0 IBUs


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Light Body, Batch Sparge
Total Grain Weight: 19 lbs 8.0 oz
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Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Mash In Add 26.32 qt of water at 161.5 F 148.0 F 75 min

Sparge: Batch sparge with 2 steps (Drain mash tun , 5.41gal) of 168.0 F water
Notes:
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I would say push that ounce of Mosaic at 20 minutes to either the five minute addition or the whirlpool and double your dry hopping. Looks great, have fun with it!

I would take the 20 min hops and move them all to flameout. Increase the Warrior to get your IBU's back to around 100.

I like the dry hops you have listed just the way they are.

beeber said:

I would take the 20 min hops and move them all to flameout. I like the dry hops you have listed just the way they are.

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So no flavor hops at all?

I'm new to hoppy beers so I just figured you wanted something there in the flavoring time.

Gus - check the Heady Topper - can you clone it thread. You'll see that all the hops go in at 90 min, then all the rest go in 5 minutes or less. I've done that recipe twice and you'll get plenty of flavor that way.

beeber said:

Gus - check the Heady Topper - can you clone it thread. You'll see that all the hops go in at 90 min, then all the rest go in 5 minutes or less. I've done that recipe twice and you'll get plenty of flavor that way.

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Ok awesome! I'll try that out!


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