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Old 02-10-2009, 09:16 PM   #11
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I see the same thing as Gordie. If the brew pot is off the stand the jets have a difficult time all lighting. Put the pot on the stand and all are usually lit within 15 seconds or so.

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Old 02-10-2009, 10:09 PM   #12
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This all a very easy fix, I should have posted this solution a while back, people plugging up burners , switching from high pressure to low pressure etc.

Please do yourself a favor and get an 0-30 psi or a 0-60 psi pressure regulator, they work the bomb on these jet type burners and probably well on all others . Get the right flame every time..

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Wouldnt running a high pressure regulator, on low pressure gas valves cause damage?
What kind of valves are you using?
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Old 02-10-2009, 10:55 PM   #13
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You say that you can only get one of the 10 tips to light, are you lighting them with your pilot light or are you trying to light them individually with a lighter (or match)?

I don't know if this will help, but I use one of those 23 tip burners for my brew stand; it is a natural gas burner instead of propane, but I would think the principle would be the same. If you plugged the tips to where they aren't pointing at each other, then they won't light. But if they are a group where they are all pointing at each other then everything lights and works great.



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Old 02-10-2009, 11:23 PM   #14
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Yeah,
I was lighting them with a torch lighter. and they would not stay lit except for the one tip of the burner.
I tried to light them all, but they would go out.
Like I said, only when I hooked up the high pressure LP valve, did they stay lit, but I have heard that will cause damage to the Gas valves.

I dont know, at this point I am wondering if I messed something up when I installed the burners. Just grasping at straws at this point.

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Old 02-10-2009, 11:52 PM   #15
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Gentlemen... Let me chime in here a bit... I don't think I may help much because I spec'ed out my system a totally different way than you fellas have. You fellas have surpassed me!

As you know, I used the 10 tip LOW PRESSURE burners to be used with a LOW PRESSURE (.4 psi) regulator from MoreBeer... I have dang near a hundred batches on Brutus now. Most every batch I have all three burners wide open blasting away at some point with a beautiful blue flame on each without fail to this day... I have a vid somewhere...

So first, to help with any problems, I would say to make sure of the burner type that you purchased. Are they high pressure jet burners? Low pressure jet burners? An infinitely adjustable regulator may be able to allow you to set just what you need! No more no less...

I can't say how they will really work actually... It is a volume thing as well as pressure. This is a big reason for my low pressure gas beam. I have a LOT of volume in this beam at a VERY low pressure to supply my three burners at the same time... I am not sure how these things are working with a small black iron pipe supplying the gas to such big burners...

Also, other than being much more quiet, my burners are VERY adjustable...

Sherpa, seems like through deductive reasoning, you indeed have the high pressure jet type burners... I would say to go with what you know my friend! If they work that is great! I can't speak to all the other gadgets yet, and as to what pressures they work at or can handle.

Wish I could help much more my friends!

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Lonnie,
Thanks for the reply. I am also using the gas beam off of your design. I called the company today, and they assured me that they were indeed the LP gas burners. (not that it means much) something is obviously wrong.

Either a blockage, a leak that I cannot detect, wrong burners, or something else.

arrrgg....I cant wait to get this thing done...LOL
I guess all the set backs will make brewing on this thing all the better.

Josh

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Old 02-11-2009, 12:22 AM   #17
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[QUOTE=Lonnie Mac;1125510]An infinitely adjustable regulator may be able to allow you to set just what you need! No more no less...
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This IS the solution, take my word for it , this WILL solve your flame problems , no plugging, no guess work, your valves open or close ...period, your pilot depends on gas to stay lit, your burners need gas, regulate from the tank, everything else will take care of itself. Don't over think this concept, high pressure or low pressure, it doesn't matter. Just dial in what you need

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Old 02-11-2009, 12:36 AM   #18
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+1 on regulating from the tank. I brewed on my newly completed Brutus system this past weekend for the first time, I employ the exact same burners, however, my system is manual, i.e. no ASCO valves or LOVE controllers. When lighting the burners I open the gas valve enough to get the burner lit then fine-tune the flame with the valve on the regulator from the tank. I was getting too much yellow flame at first ( O2 ) so I backed off at the regulator to get that nice blue flame. I only had two burners in use at one time but everything worked really well, I am totally stoked about future brew days.

There is some great info in this thread, I am sure you will get this situation worked out!

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Old 02-11-2009, 01:17 AM   #19
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Let's go back to the basics, what is the valve part number?
Not all valves are the same.

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Lonnie,
Thanks for the reply. I am also using the gas beam off of your design. I called the company today, and they assured me that they were indeed the LP gas burners. (not that it means much) something is obviously wrong.

Either a blockage, a leak that I cannot detect, wrong burners, or something else.

arrrgg....I cant wait to get this thing done...LOL
I guess all the set backs will make brewing on this thing all the better.

Josh
Ah yes my friend... I am pretty sure you have LP (liquified petroleum) burners indeed. But are you sure that they are not LP (low pressure), LP (liquified petroleum)burners as well... There has been some sense of confusion around the internet including here on this board... As best as I can describe it, I have LP/LP burners! liquified petroleum/low pressure...

Most all systems will run at high pressure... Up to 30 psi... Low pressure will be under 1 (one) psi... Like my system.

It is a big deal as to what regulator you will use although it seems like you may have already figured that much out...
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