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Old 10-29-2009, 02:49 PM   #1
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I am wanting to move up to a 1/2 bbl brew system, and I was hoping to get a stainless conical that would work as a primary/secondary fermenter. The only ones I seem to be able to find are the 14.5 (too small) and the 27 gallon sizes (I think too big). Anyone know where I can find a fermenter that is ~ 20 gal?

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Old 10-29-2009, 05:17 PM   #2
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I've only seen the sizes you mention. Probably because it is more common to do a 20 gallon system than a 1/2 bbl....Why not move up to 20 gallons?

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Old 10-29-2009, 06:02 PM   #3
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Either go with the larger volume SS one or look for plastic induction tanks. They come in a variety of volumes and you'll probably be able to source something close.

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Old 10-29-2009, 07:06 PM   #4
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Michael, the reason I was looking at 1/2 bbl is I was planning to set up a "tree" style brewing system, that would put off 15 gallons. I did find this online, which looks like an interesting possibility...

http://www.brew-magic.com/fermenter.html

Anyone used something like this before?

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You could also use this with a standard sanke for a fermenter. This is what I use.

http://www.brewershardware.com/fermenter.htm

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Michael, the reason I was looking at 1/2 bbl is I was planning to set up a "tree" style brewing system, that would put off 15 gallons. I did find this online, which looks like an interesting possibility...

http://www.brew-magic.com/fermenter.html

Anyone used something like this before?
$600 for a 15 gal fermenter?!?

Just use a sankey keg with a carboy cap on it and save $500+
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If you're going to spend that much cash on a fermenter...

http://www.austinhomebrew.com/produc...oducts_id=1128

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You could contact this company. They will likely make a conical in a 20 gallon version. I personally don't know to much abour their products though.

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I'll go for it again...

I have this one from synergymetalworking.com. It is 15.5 gal. I am doing 13+ gallons in it at present with a blow-off vessel (corny). It's working quite well and I know I can do more (gonna try 14 next).

I can fit my whole arm down the 4" triclamp to the bottom to clean (and the top as well) since I'm no he-man. Sure it's not a 60 degree cone, but with a sanitized spatula, I can harvest the whole cake very conveniently and separate it in a glass container (with some sterile water). Even without doing that, I got about 2 vials worth of yeast out the 1.5" bottom dump with just one purge.

Best things about this are:

1) It can be pressurized to 60 psi, unlike all others I've seen on the market (EDIT: Well, I guess except the Sabco which is like the same thing). My last batch was fermented, cold crashed, boost carbed, and served from the same vessel, just like a brew pub. My current batch is seeing a pressurized ferment.

2) It's American made. Well, the keg is actually French, but it's not a Chinese import (not that there's anything wrong with that but,....)

3) On mine, I have only one weld below the beer line (the 1.5" dump) and zero threads. Having everything accessed (even thermowell, racking port, etc. except the dump) from the top makes using a chest freezer a preferred choice. Very low profile. I just put a 90 degree triclamp elbow so I could reach the dump valve in the chest freezer.


It was about $450-ish +/-.



HOWEVER-

I also bought a 15 gallon corny keg for ~$200 (factory second) as a lagering/second primary vessel. This thing is really cool. It's easily half the weight of the Sanke and has a nice thick rubber bottom. Haven't used it yet, but going to shortly. That's a pretty good price for stainless with posts and dip tubes already present. Again, just harvest the whole damn yeast cake this time out the bev out post with a little CO2 and separate in a different container.


My humble opinion: The whole 60 degree cone thing is just not that important on the homebrew scale. When you have multiple barrel volumes of beer pressing down on the yeast cake in a big brewery, you need to remove the yeast (as much of it as possible) so it doesn't cook and loose viability. That's just not the case with 15 gallons.

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You could also use this with a standard sanke for a fermenter. This is what I use.

http://www.brewershardware.com/fermenter.htm
+1 on the Sanke Fermenter kit from Brewer's Hardware. I bought a couple of them and they work great. I even use low pressure CO2 to transfer, though it isn't recommended. I've found that 3 psi is all you need to transfer to another vessel at the same level.

I haven't tried harvesting the yeast yet, but I'm sure it's possible.
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