Your Black IPA/Cascadian Dark Ale input

[cheezydemon3]

I just tried the Widmer's Pitch Black last night and I agree it's an excellent representaion of the BIPA/CDA/ABA/KDHA, whatever you want to call it. Anyone on the fence about this style should try one of these. Regardless of the name it's an outstanding beer IMO.

Fixed

actually I thought your consideration of all 3 names was slightly awesomely funny in itself, showing no bias whatsoever. Nice!

I accept rexbanners take on the style, sorry to have been a hater.Please see earlier posts.

 

[the_trout]

I'm calling mine the Black India that C-Hopped, aka the BItCH :rockin:

 

[Vance71975]

I want to know who thinks they have the best black IPA/Cascadian Dark Ale (whatever you want to call it) recipe or key recipe input. Is it one you've formulated, tweaked form a commercial recipe or purchased from an online vendor? I brewed one a while back that was pretty tasty, but lacked the malt complexity I was hoping for. Please share your experiences and recipe ideas. I plan to brew another very soon and want to see what you guys have come up with as a favorite. All ideas and input are very welcome. Complexity in flavor is obviously a must!

For commercial reference, my favs are Stone's Sublimely Self-Righteous and Deschutes Hop In The Dark.

Excited to hear your feedback!

This is my fav by far, it came out VERY balanced. This was one of those beers that after the first drink i thought to myself "sometimes I even impress myself!" It was just sooo good!

Black Bomb
Cascadian Dark Ale


Type: All Grain
Boil Size: 8.00 gal
Batch Size:5.00 gal
Boil Time: 60 min

Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
7.00 lb Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 48.28 %
2.00 lb Aromatic Malt (26.0 SRM) Grain 13.79 %
2.00 lb Oats, Malted (1.0 SRM) Grain 13.79 %
2.00 lb Pale Malt (6 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 13.79 %
1.00 lb Caramel Malt - 80L 6-Row (Briess) (80.0 SRM) Grain 6.90 %
0.50 lb Carafa III (525.0 SRM) Grain 3.45 %
1.00 oz Amarillo [8.50 %] (Dry Hop 21 days) Hops -
1.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (Dry Hop 21 days) Hops -
1.00 oz Amarillo [8.50 %] (30 min) Hops 22.7 IBU
1.00 oz Citra [12.00 %] (20 min) Hops 25.3 IBU
1.00 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] (10 min) Hops 16.4 IBU
1.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (5 min) Hops 3.8 IBU
1.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (0 min) Hops -
1 Pkgs Scottish Ale (Wyeast Labs #1728) Yeast-Ale



Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.078 SG

Est Final Gravity: 1.022 SG

Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 7.43 %

Bitterness: 68.2 IBU

Est Color: 33.3 SRM


Mash Profile


Double Infusion, Medium Body

30 min Protein Rest Add 13.05 qt of water at 132.1 F 122.0 F
30 min Saccrification Add 11.60 qt of water at 197.3 F 154.0 F
10 min Mash Out Add 10.15 qt of water at 205.6 F 168.0 F

 

[cheezydemon3]

I'm calling mine the Black India that C-Hopped, aka the BItCH :rockin:

Got my vote!

This is my fav by far, it came out VERY balanced. This was one of those beers that after the first drink i thought to myself "sometimes I even impress myself!" It was just sooo good!

Black Bomb
BItCH


Type: All Grain
Boil Size: 8.00 gal
Batch Size:5.00 gal
Boil Time: 60 min

Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
7.00 lb Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 48.28 %
2.00 lb Aromatic Malt (26.0 SRM) Grain 13.79 %
2.00 lb Oats, Malted (1.0 SRM) Grain 13.79 %
2.00 lb Pale Malt (6 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 13.79 %
1.00 lb Caramel Malt - 80L 6-Row (Briess) (80.0 SRM) Grain 6.90 %
0.50 lb Carafa III (525.0 SRM) Grain 3.45 %
1.00 oz Amarillo [8.50 %] (Dry Hop 21 days) Hops -
1.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (Dry Hop 21 days) Hops -
1.00 oz Amarillo [8.50 %] (30 min) Hops 22.7 IBU
1.00 oz Citra [12.00 %] (20 min) Hops 25.3 IBU
1.00 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] (10 min) Hops 16.4 IBU
1.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (5 min) Hops 3.8 IBU
1.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (0 min) Hops -
1 Pkgs Scottish Ale (Wyeast Labs #1728) Yeast-Ale



Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.078 SG

Est Final Gravity: 1.022 SG

Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 7.43 %

Bitterness: 68.2 IBU

Est Color: 33.3 SRM


Mash Profile


Double Infusion, Medium Body

30 min Protein Rest Add 13.05 qt of water at 132.1 F 122.0 F
30 min Saccrification Add 11.60 qt of water at 197.3 F 154.0 F
10 min Mash Out Add 10.15 qt of water at 205.6 F 168.0 F

Just the recipe melted my face. Good work!, except I had to fix your "style".

 

[Vance71975]

Got my vote!



Just the recipe melted my face. Good work!, except I had to fix your "style".

lol glad you liked it and damn i missed that category in the list!

 

[cheezydemon3]

I WILL try that BiTCH recipe Vance, thanks for sharing with the class.

 

[robtotten]

I went 90% 2 row, 5% each carafa iii (dehusked/special) and crystal 60 or 80. After a few batches I took the bittering charge down to 50 or so IBUs and then added a ton (3 ounces each of Amarillo and Simcoe) of flavor / aroma hops. I whirlpool but you can split them up at 15/10/5/0/however you normally do it. Then dry hop with at least an ounce of each. I pitched around 64 (I don't have my notes with me), kegged after 2 weeks, and dry hopped in the keg. It was really good, I was going for a slightly tamer SSR and it worked great. Stone's yeast is similar to wlp007, but US-05 will work fine. I mashed higher than I would for a normal IPA, 154 or 155.

 

[edb23]

I've never brewed one of these yet, but have been thinking about it for a while.

What occurred to me is that a lot of dark grains like roasted barley and black patent add a distinct bitterness of their own, and it might be interesting to make a pretty bitter beer without even using an IPA level of hops. Haven't tried it, so not sure if it would work, but just a thought.

 

[bschoenb]

I had a friend talk me into adding a bit of pale chocolate into my Black IPA..... I might tell you..... DONT do it!

 

[Strave19]

I had a friend talk me into adding a bit of pale chocolate into my Black IPA..... I might tell you..... DONT do it!

Too much?

My DHG (dark hop grenade...not mine, someone else on here said it and I like it...) has .75lb carafaII and .25lb Choc. wheat as well as .75lb crystal 60. I mashed for the full mash (70min I think). It looked and smelled beautiful but I have not tasted it yet. I'm not going to worry...

 

[Schemy]

I adapted a couple recipes I found on here and combined to make my Soul Agent IBA. I am going to brew it for the first time this weekend. Really excited as this "style" of beer is becoming a quick favorite of mine. Plus first time doing all grain. My preferred representation has to be Odell Brewing Mountain Standard found here http://odellbrewing.com/beers/single-serve-landing/mountain-standard-reserve.

 

[cheezydemon3]

Too much?

My DHG (dark hop grenade...not mine, someone else on here said it and I like it...) has .75lb carafaII and .25lb Choc. wheat as well as .75lb crystal 60. I mashed for the full mash (70min I think). It looked and smelled beautiful but I have not tasted it yet. I'm not going to worry...

....don't see pale chocolate in there, so.............., no, don't worry.

 

[REJ]

I just kegged AHS's Stone 11th Anniversary Ale aka Sublimely Self Righteous and it is a spectacular recipe. However, I have been intrigued by the D.O.Z.E. recipe as well. Anyone brewed both of these? Thoughts?

 

[Piratwolf]

I'm not hating, just said it wasn't my cup of tea. I like hoppy beers and I like stouts. The combination / fusion of the two just didn't work for me....

I get where you're coming from here--which is why I use chocolate rye and Carafa III for my black IPA. To me, anything that says IPA *has* to be about the hop character, and roastiness interferes with that character in my experience. The chocolate rye adds complexity and spiciness rather than roastiness, and the C3 gives the blackness and a nod towards roast.

Maybe that's not a good representation of the style- if not, tell me what is and I'll give it a shot.

For Black IPA, my money is on Firestone Walker Wookie Jack. I almost didn't drink it b/c my nose said "Amarillo + black IPA? No way!" But my mouth said, "Hellllllls yes!"