www.fiftypoundsack.com - cheap bulk grain

[brewingkitty]

that site 50#sack doesn't let you actually ORDER anything. what kind of business model is that??

 

[Atvar]

I'm not really impressed with their prices anymore - the cheapest 2-row is $1.00/lb.

 

[jmferris]

Just because it says it is going to open on 01/11/11, does not mean that it will magically open at 12:01a in each person's time zone.

Granted, I would sooner participate in a group buy, but the prices are reasonable considering the free shipping. For me, personally, there is no one "go-to" vendor for anything. I build out my orders against several vendors before buying from anyone. Prices change enough that I would be crazy not to shop around. It is always welcome to have another point of comparison.

 

[bja]

I'm not really impressed with their prices anymore - the cheapest 2-row is $1.00/lb.

Where do you buy it cheaper?

 

[Sean]

I pay 52 at the shop, but have to drive 70 miles. 55 delivered sounds pretty good.

 

[jakecpunut]

The cheapest I've found is Austin Home Brew $53.99 for 50# if I bump my order up to $100 for free shipping... I WISH i could find somewhere local... the closet place has 50#'s for $43 +tax and a 2 hour drive.. not worth it!!

 

[bja]

I pay $60 for 50# of Briess at my LHBS which is 10 miles each way. But I don't pay tax since it's considered to be food.

 

[bigbeergeek]

Just because it says it is going to open on 01/11/11, does not mean that it will magically open at 12:01a in each person's time zone.

While I totally agree with the magical timezone sentiment, I think all of us who have been watching this site not open for months were just preparing for the inevitable: no change to the website whatsoever, and still no way to order grain or hops or contact the company in any way.

 

[jbrookeiv]

While I totally agree with the magical timezone sentiment, I think all of us who have been watching this site not open for months were just preparing for the inevitable: no change to the website whatsoever, and still no way to order grain or hops or contact the company in any way.

Amen to that. I was very excited for my relatives to be able to buy me bulk grain for Christmas. That dream was shattered when the Dec. 1st opening date came and went. Now, a month and a half later, it's still closed.

 

[JonW]

I am lucky. I live in a ag town. There is a Grain company about 2 my house that sells 2-row for $34 a sack and Marris Otter for $43 a sack. I usually have one of each and sometimes a sack of Pilsner on hand.

Care to share what place this is? Thanks!

 

[Atvar]

Where do you buy it cheaper?

I pay $60 for 50# of Briess at my LHBS which is 10 miles each way. But I don't pay tax since it's considered to be food.

I just bought a 50lb sack of Briess 2-row for $50 at South Hills Brewing Supply, which is $68 at fiftypoundsack. If the prices are roughly the same as one stop shops like AHS, BMW, etc., I won't go through the hassle of making seperate orders for grains.

 

[Randar]

I pay $60 for 50# of Briess at my LHBS which is 10 miles each way. But I don't pay tax since it's considered to be food.

Good lord. They're marking their bulk grain up 100%? I get 50# domestic malts for $38-42 a sack with no tax at my LHBS. Import bulk grains are closer to the price you are paying but for 55# sacks.

 

[bja]

I just bought a 50lb sack of Briess 2-row for $50 at South Hills Brewing Supply, which is $68 at fiftypoundsack. If the prices are roughly the same as one stop shops like AHS, BMW, etc., I won't go through the hassle of making seperate orders for grains.

I get mine from Ben's Homebrew in Tarentum.

I just remembered South Hills Brewing opened a store in Monroeville. I'll have to check it out.

 

[Rhoman]

$65 for Rahr 2-row at my LHBS... robbery. I just got a #7 Barley Crusher for Christmas and I'm itching to use it! I'd rather order from Northern Brewer for $68 (including shipping) and not have to drive an hour round trip. It's a little depressing.

Is there really nowhere else on the internet to buy #55 lb sacks? I feel like there should be more competition between shops with the rate that this hobby is growing in popularity. Is Northern Brewer really my best option for bulk?

I understand that businesses need to increase their prices to make money, but It doesn't seem right that I should have to pay a 100% margin for my LHBS to profit.

 

[bigbeergeek]

$65 for Rahr 2-row at my LHBS... robbery. I just got a #7 Barley Crusher for Christmas and I'm itching to use it! I'd rather order from Northern Brewer for $68 (including shipping) and not have to drive an hour round trip. It's a little depressing.

Is there really nowhere else on the internet to buy #55 lb sacks? I feel like there should be more competition between shops with the rate that this hobby is growing in popularity. Is Northern Brewer really my best option for bulk?

I understand that businesses need to increase their prices to make money, but It doesn't seem right that I should have to pay a 100% margin for my LHBS to profit.

Austin homebrew supply has 55# of 2-row for $54, and free shipping on orders over $100. So you'd save $28 on 2 sacks compared to Northern Brewer.

 

[TANSTAAFB]

From the looks of it, we have it pretty damn good here in San Antonio :rockin:
This is from Home Brew Party's excel price sheet and it tells me AHS is marking up WAY too much (Forrest???) if my little guy LHBS 2 hrs down the road can beat 'em by over $10

This thread has just solidified my commitment to giving them my business

Bulk Grains (Whole bag only)
Briess Grains 50 lbs
Munich 10L, Briess, 50 lbs $42.50
Pale Ale Malt (2 row), Briess, 50 lbs $43.75
Pale Malt (Brewers 2-row), Briess, 50 lbs $40.50
Pilsen, Briess, 50 lbs $43.75
Wheat, Briess, 50 lbs $42.50
Muntons (British) 2-Row 55 lbs
Lager, Muntons, 55 lbs $49.05
Maris Otter, Muntons, 55 lbs $51.80
Mild Ale, Muntons, 55 lbs $49.05
Pale Ale (Brewers 2-row), Muntons, 55 lbs $49.05
Wheat, Muntons, 55 lbs $53.45
Weyermann 2-row German Grain Malts 55 lbs
Light Wheat, Weyermanns, 55 lbs $43.63
Munich, Weyermanns, 55 lbs $45.83
Pale Ale, Weyermanns, 55 lbs $45.83
Pilsner, Weyermanns, 55 lbs $45.83

 

[Malticulous]

Austin homebrew supply has 55# of 2-row for $54, and free shipping on orders over $100. So you'd save $28 on 2 sacks compared to Northern Brewer.

It's a 50 lb sack of Great Western 2-row. Morebeer sells Great Western Pale ale for about the same price in five pound bags.
https://morebeer.com/view_product/8505/beerwinecoffee/Malt_-_American__Pale_-_5_lb

 

[Randar]

From the looks of it, we have it pretty damn good here in San Antonio :rockin:
This is from Home Brew Party's excel price sheet and it tells me AHS is marking up WAY too much (Forrest???)

That's how companies subsidize the "free shipping" offers. Roll the cost into heavier/bulk items to deflect the cost. His actual shipping cost isn't "free", mind you.

 

[zymurgy101]

Just in case anyone missed this comment, no worries about being a reputable source.

Confirmed. Tyler (at Rebel Brewer) told me about this spinoff site in December. For those that aren't familiar with RebelBrewer, they are just awesome. Couldn't ask for any friendlier folks, great customer service and pricing...and now they're doing Fifty Pound Sacks!

 

[joety]

That's how companies subsidize the "free shipping" offers. Roll the cost into heavier/bulk items to deflect the cost. His actual shipping cost isn't "free", mind you.

It's not, and if you are closer to Forrest, you are subsidizing his customers who are farther away. Not to get preachy, but this methodology does not result in an efficient use of resources in the economy and why I'm not a fan of flat or free shipping. Charge a reasonable markup and actual shipping and everyone wins, well, other than the guy up in Alaska who's shipping you are paying for.

 

[TANSTAAFB]

I agree and I guess my point was that I will not drive to Austin to go to a much bigger, badder, "better" store because of it. If there is a different walk in price, there is no way to know it. I check the prices on the site and they are considerably higher than my local guys. I don't have much of a problem with defraying shipping w/ markups, but a place like Austin Homebrew has the buying capacity to offer bulk grain at such a great price that I could justify the drive to Austin. I actually live between Austin and SA, and if there was a $30 walk in price I would go for it. There is no reason that my LHBS with significantly less purchasing power can beat a mega store's price by that much.

 

[joety]

My LHBS is Northern Brewer. They are a little pricier than Midwest in MPLS, who I would order from before NB opened their second store in Milwaukee, but their 7.99 flat rate does not apply to bulk grain, so it's more reasonable. U.S. 2-row is about $36 (less my 10% discount), imported 25kg bags are pricier, in the $60 range.

 

[Austinhomebrew]

That's how companies subsidize the "free shipping" offers. Roll the cost into heavier/bulk items to deflect the cost. His actual shipping cost isn't "free", mind you.

Compare delivered price to your door when comparing prices. The bags of grain on my website are a loss leader. I suppose I should charge shipping for the bags of grain and lower the price of the grain itself but it will be the same price.

Forrest

 

[Austinhomebrew]

I agree and I guess my point was that I will not drive to Austin to go to a much bigger, badder, "better" store because of it. If there is a different walk in price, there is no way to know it. I check the prices on the site and they are considerably higher than my local guys. I don't have much of a problem with defraying shipping w/ markups, but a place like Austin Homebrew has the buying capacity to offer bulk grain at such a great price that I could justify the drive to Austin. I actually live between Austin and SA, and if there was a $30 walk in price I would go for it. There is no reason that my LHBS with significantly less purchasing power can beat a mega store's price by that much.

We have a great deal on a 55 pound bag of 2-row in-store only. Walk in price on bags of grain is lower than delivered price for every homebrew store.

 

[Austinhomebrew]

Shipping a 50 pound bag across the street from me cost $23.67 in shipping charges. More if it is further away. So I can charge $54 for a bag of 2-row ($54 - $23.67shipping equals $30.33). Or I can charge $35.99 for a bag like Northern Brewer and add $23.67 in shipping charges = $59.66

So it is a good deal if you have the grain shipped to you.

Forrest

UPS Ground 8:15 P.M.
Wednesday
January 12, 2011
By End of Day,
Thursday
January 13, 2011 23.67 USD *


Days In Transit: 1 Schedule by
7:15 P.M.
Wednesday
January 12, 2011 Billable Weight:
52.0 lbs.

 

[joety]

But not so good a deal for your local customers.

<<<I suppose I should charge shipping for the bags of grain and lower the price of the grain itself but it will be the same price.>>>

To some, but not to others. It will work out better. Do you have evidence the loss leader concept is making you money in the long run? If not, let them buy grain locally and focus on service and selection.

 

[joety]

I apologize for sounding like I'm telling you how to run your business. I work at a hedge fund, what the hell do I know about running a home brew store. It just sounds like you are trying to be all things to all people.

 

[bigbeergeek]

On behalf of all of us who do NOT have a LHBS, let alone one with great rates on bulk grain, could you please take your gloating elsewhere?

 

[bigbeergeek]

It's a 50 lb sack of Great Western 2-row. Morebeer sells Great Western Pale ale for about the same price in five pound bags.
https://morebeer.com/view_product/8505/beerwinecoffee/Malt_-_American__Pale_-_5_lb

Holy moly! You beat my price by 2 bucks a sack! Thanks!

 

[Austinhomebrew]

But not so good a deal for your local customers.

<<<I suppose I should charge shipping for the bags of grain and lower the price of the grain itself but it will be the same price.>>>

To some, but not to others. It will work out better. Do you have evidence the loss leader concept is making you money in the long run? If not, let them buy grain locally and focus on service and selection.

The in store price is lower. Loss leader is simply a loss of money.