Widmer brother spiced IPA clone

[Kmcogar]

Just had widmer brothers spiced IPA. I think I'm in love. Anyone know a clone recipe for this bad boy ?

It has do many different favors, I don't know where to start.

Help a brewer out!

 

[Calichusetts]

This should give you a good start:

brewed with malty assam black tea, ginger, cinnamon, clove, star anise, black pepper, and cardamom.

Hops:
Alchemy, Millenium, Falconer, Zeus, Galaxy and Teamaker

Malts:
Pale, White Wheat, Caramel 40, Carapils

IBU is 70

7% ABV

16 Plato

Good luck...widmer is amazing!

 

[Kmcogar]

Geez, I don't even know where to start. All those spices! How do they put the tea in in? The rest I may be able to figure out but the spices will be the hard part.

 

[Calichusetts]

I use several of these spices in a few brews...I do two additions, 15-10 minuts and then at 5-flameout depending on how strong you want the aroma or flavor...be careful with cardamom, I found it can easily overwhelm a brew

 

[forces]

I use several of these spices in a few brews...I do two additions, 15-10 minuts and then at 5-flameout depending on how strong you want the aroma or flavor...be careful with cardamom, I found it can easily overwhelm a brew

I agree, 5 minutes or flame out is probably the best time for the spices. The cardamom pretty much dominates the aroma in the Widmere Spiced IPA. It is pretty strong, and some people really don't like it. Try cracking a green cardamom open and tossing the innards in a pint of a dry moderately hoppy IPA. Let it sit for a few minutes before drinking. Just that alone will get you pretty close to widmere's taste in itself.

Also, be careful with the black tea. If you boil it too long, or even let it steep too long at flame out, you'll pull out bitter and harsh tannins. I would probably steep it at flame out and remove it 10 minutes into your cooling. (longer with wort chiller, shorter in an ice bath).

I would do some research on all the spices and only use the ones you like. FWIW, Star anise tastes like black licorice, I will probably ommit that from my stab at this beer, the black pepper is drowned out by the cardamom... probably gonna axe that too. Cloves are crazy strong, probably 1 clove per gallon is enough, not more than 2/ gallon.

 

[forces]

not sure if you formulated a recipe yet, but I was inspired by this beer too.
Kind of on a spice kick lately... So here's what I put together. I'm probably gonna brew this in the next month or so.

I ditched the star anise 'cause I hate black licorice, and I added vanilla because I'm going for a vanilla chai spice flavor. One of the things I didn't like about the Widmere though was that after the nose, the beer totally fell on it's face. Hopefully a little extra crystal and a good portion of flavoring hops will help round it out. Also, I'm using ahtanum hops to get some more floral tones rather than a typical citrusy hop flavor in AIPAs. The corn sugar is to help dry it out.

Spiced Rye IPA
American IPA
Type: All Grain Date: 4/1/2012
Batch Size (fermenter): 5.25 gal Brewer:
Boil Size: 5.96 gal Asst Brewer:
Boil Time: 60 min Equipment: My Equipment
End of Boil Volume 5.46 gal Brewhouse Efficiency: 70.00 %
Final Bottling Volume: 5.25 gal Est Mash Efficiency 70.0 %
Fermentation: My Aging Profile Taste Rating(out of 50): 30.0
Taste Notes:
Ingredients


Ingredients
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
10 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 74.1 %
2 lbs Rye Malt (4.7 SRM) Grain 2 14.8 %
8.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 3 3.7 %
1 lbs Corn Sugar (Dextrose) (0.0 SRM) Sugar 4 7.4 %

2.00 oz Ahtanum [6.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 5 36.2 IBUs
1.50 oz Ahtanum [6.00 %] - Boil 20.0 min Hop 6 16.5 IBUs
2.50 oz Ahtanum [6.00 %] - Boil 2.0 min Hop 9 4.2 IBUs

1.00 oz Ginger Root (Boil 12.0 mins) Herb 7 -
0.50 Items Cinnamon Stick (Boil 5.0 mins) Spice 8 -
10.00 Items Whole Black Pepper (Boil 0.0 mins) Spice 10 -
7.00 Items Black Tea (Boil 0.0 mins) Spice 11 -
3.00 Items Clove (Boil 0.0 mins) Spice 12 -
1.00 tsp cardamom (Boil 0.0 mins) Spice 13 -
0.50 Items Vanilla Bean (Boil 0.0 mins) Spice 14 -

Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.067 SG Measured Original Gravity: 1.046 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.009 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1.010 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 7.6 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: 4.7 %
Bitterness: 56.9 IBUs Calories: 151.6 kcal/12oz
Est Color: 7.9 SRM
Mash Profile

Mash Name: Single Infusion, Light Body, No Mash Out Total Grain Weight: 13 lbs 8.0 oz
Sparge Water: 3.55 gal Grain Temperature: 72.0 F
Sparge Temperature: 168.0 F Tun Temperature: 72.0 F
Adjust Temp for Equipment: FALSE Mash PH: 5.20

Mash Steps
Name Description Step Temperature Step Time
Mash In Add 15.63 qt of water at 159.1 F 148.0 F 75 min

Sparge Step: Fly sparge with 3.55 gal water at 168.0 F

 

[h0psnobery]

Did you end up brewing this? This beer is my current favorite, so I'd really love being able to make it at home.