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Brewkowski

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I'm certainly not trying this and I'm only on my first batch of fruit wine, but why couldn't do you something like carb a few bomber bottles using keg carbing or soemthing and cap them to make them sparkling? It would be nice to experiment with sparkling fruit wines, but the methods that I have seen, seem like quite the undertaking. So it's more of a general question. If it works for cider, mead, and beer, why not for wine? Is it because you ferment completely, sorbate and backsweeten? Could you keep a small amount of must krausen held back and add that after you've got your desired sweetness? I've never krausen-carbed either so I'm pretty much asking questions that are probably fooking obvious.
 
Not sure exactly what you're suggesting, but to make it clear, if you sorbate and backsweeten, you cannot use the yeast to do your carbonation. That does not stop you from force carbonating where the source is a C02 tank. So "kreusen", no, bottling from carbonated keg, sure.
 
If you did all the math, and timed it right, sure you could bottle wine that was 'almost done' and get a sparkling wine.

but you sacrifice clarity and it might be so carb'd that all the sediment resuspends when you open the bottle.

properly making sparkling wine (champagne) is a fairly labor intensive process...unless you just keg it and force carb it.
 
You could make sparkling wine if you wanted. I'd still wait until it was fermented out, then prime and bottle just like for sparkling mead or carbonated cider. I personally don't like ciders, meads, or wines carbonated so I haven't done it but I have it with my hard lemonade recipe.

Of course, you can't use regular wine bottles and corks, but you can use champagne bottles or beer bottles with bottle caps.
 
Ok, I guess I only read about this first method of making sparkling wine which seems like the correct way to do it. Doesn't matter I'm not making a sparkling wine, just curious.


Methode Champenoise is a more labor-intensive and expensive method than the other two methods of producing sparkling wine. After harvesting the fruit, the juice is pressed and put into containers for the first fermentation. These containers are either stainless steel vats or oak barrels. When the first fermentation is complete, various lots of wine are blended together to produce an assemblage (the final blend of varieties for the finished wine). Then a mixture of yeast and sugar, called a triage, is added to the base wine. The wine is bottled with a small plastic cup that fits in the neck of the bottle and collects any sediment. This small plastic cup is called a "bidule".

The second fermentation takes place in the bottle and due to the sugar and yeast being added, alcohol and carbon dioxide are produced. Due to carbon dioxide formation and pressures up to 90 pounds per square inch, bottles for Champagne and sparkling wine must be thicker than regular wine bottles. During the second fermentation, temperature plays an important role. Cooler temperatures produce finer bubbles. Once the second fermentation is complete, dead yeast cells begin to break down and form a sediment in the wine. This process is called autolysis. The winemaker decides how long to allow for the autolysis process and this in turn has an impact on the final taste of the wine. The sediment must then be removed without losing the carbon dioxide and sparkle. The first step in doing this is riddling or remuage. In years past, this was done by inserting the neck of the wine bottle into a rack, called a pupitres, that would hold it at a 45 degree angle so the dead yeast cells would settle into the neck where the bidule was attached.

Then every few days, a trained person, called a remuer, would give each of the bottles a quick shake and increase the angle of the bottles until they were eventually positioned completely downward, thereby collecting all the sediment in the neck. Today, the riddling process is automated. Next the sediment is removed by disgorgement. This is where the bottle is placed neck down in an icy brine to freeze the sediment into a solid plug. The cap is then removed and the pressure inside the bottle causes the frozen sediment to be expelled. Then a "dosage" is added. This dosage is a small amount of wine mixed with sugar and sometime brandy and it determines the sweetness or dryness of the sparkling wine. The bottle is then corked and secured with a wire hood.

The Transfer Method of making sparkling wine is similar to the Methode Champenoise except that instead of riddling to remove the sediment, the wine is transferred to a pressurized tank where the sediment is filtered. It is then bottled, corked and secured with a wire hood in preparation for sale to the public.

The Charmat Bulk Process is the quickest and least expensive method of making sparkling wine. With this process, instead of the wine going through the second fermentation in the bottle, the base wine is placed in a temperature-controlled, pressurized tank to which sugar and yeast is added. The secondary fermentation takes place in this tank without the release of any carbon dioxide. This tank acts like a very large bottle. Once the fermenting is complete, the wine is filtered under counter pressure and bottled using a counter-pressure filler. Because the wine has not spent the same amount of time in contact with the carbon dioxide, the bubbles tend to be larger and dissipate more quickly.
 
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