Why bleach and sanitize bottles?

[Chuck_Swillery]

I'm a dishwasher sanatizer also. However, I also wash them by hand FIRST then let the dishwasher's heat do the sanatizing for me. I've never had a problem w/this method.

 

[glenn514]

Being still a relative n00b, I may not be giving bottle sanitation enough consideration. I, too, rinse emptied bottles thoroughly and allow them to dry. When I'm ready to bottle, I run my clean empties through the dishwasher...NO SOAP--just water...on the "hi temp" wash and the drying cycle. The water rinses them out again...yes, some does manage to get in there...and the drying temp takes care of sanitation. I haven't had a problem yet.

glenn514

 

[McGarnigle]

Beer is less vulnerable than wort, so you can get away with stuff when bottling. Still, I personally am not content to merely rinse after use; I also use One Step to clean, then Star San (or occasionally the oven).

 

[northernlad]

Interesting... Maybe I am super lazy or super lucky. But all I do is thoroughly rinse the bottle after use then hit em with a starsan solution from a vinatore a few minutes before I refill them. No dishwasher, no bleach, no oxy clean, no cooking the bottles, no problems yet.

^This. I used to go through all the work and misuse of resources with my dishwasher, etc.
Now:
Rinse every bottle every time. Store upside down in milk crates. One shot of starsan courtesy of vinator, rack upside down on a commercial dishmachine rack. Bottle.
I know dishmachines work well for those who use them but its just such a waste of water, energy, and time. Plus you are getting what is left over from your lasty round of dishes thrown all over your bottles.
A vinator is under $20 and you'll pay for that by not using your dishmachine.

Every detergent leaves residue behind. ESPECIALLY if you are using heat dry. What is on there becomes baked on there. It is best to not use them if possible.
As far as bleach being a cleaner not a santizer, that is completely wrong, unless you are speaking of its specific use in homebrewing.

 

[400d]

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if this is true, it means that my dish washer which has a drying stage at 65°C (149 F) for 25 minutes will be just enough to sanitize all the bottles....

but the problem that occurs here is that bottling lasts for 1 - 2 hours, and if I just pick bottles up from the dish washer, it's enough time for them to get exposed again to airborne enemies...

when I sanitize with bleach solution, I rinse one bottle at a time, then fill with beer and cap... this shortens the exposure time to minimum....

maybe I'm just being obsessive with sanitizing...

 

[BigB]

maybe I'm just being obsessive with sanitizing...

I would say just a little. But theres nothing wrong with that!

 

[gtpro]

Personally I just rinse all my bottles with hot water right after drinking them and then do a detergent free dishwasher cycle with heated dry. I only use the bottom rack with the bottle mouths pointing down to up my chances of getting the water inside the bottles. 7 batches and I havent had a problem yet (knock on wood).