White IPA

[kchomebrew]

Brewed a White IPA this past weekend. Spent some time reading about Deschutes Chainbreaker and the Blvd/Deschutes collaboration and building the grain bill. Went a completely different route on hops and didn't put in any corriander or orange peerl additions like some these recipes sugges. I am considering the idea of buying some lemongrass and adding it with the dry hops to the secondary (not sure yet). Also, I decided to go with American yeast instead of Belgian yeast. I suppose this would be more like an Imperial Hoppy Wheat, if there is such a thing. Originally calculations had the FG at 1.068 and this one came in at 1.062. Not a big deal. Not sure what causes my efficiency to jump around when using wheat, but I always notice I come in much lower with OG on grain bills that involve wheat. Normally my system runs 90% and this one came in at 82%.

Kettle Volume: 14.0 gal @ 212 °F (1.054)
Boil Duration: 1.5 h
Evaporation: 2gal/hr
Final Vol.: 10.56 gal @ 68 °F (1.068)
Efficiency: 82.0%
Attenuation: 77.0%

12 lb (52.2%) Pilsner Malt; Weyermann - added during mash
7 lb (30.4%) White Wheat Malt; Briess - added during mash
2 lb (8.7%) Wheat Flaked - added during mash
1 lb (4.3%) Oats Flaked - added during mash
1 lb (4.3%) Carapils®/Carafoam®; Weyermann - added during mash
1 oz Bravo (15.5%) - added first wort, boiled 90.0 m
1 oz Amarillo® (8.5%) - added during boil, boiled 30 m
.5 oz Nelson Sauvin (12%) - added during boil, boiled 10 m
.5 oz Mosaic (13%) - added during boil, boiled 10 m
.5 oz CitraTM (12.0%) - added during boil, boiled 10 m
1 oz Nelson Sauvin (12%) - added during boil, boiled 5 m
1 oz Mosaic (13%) - added during boil, boiled 5 m
1 oz CitraTM (12.0%) - added during boil, boiled 5 m
1.5 oz Nelson Sauvin (12%) - added after boil, steeped 30 m
1.5 oz Mosaic (13%) - added after boil, steeped 30 m
1.5 oz CitraTM (12.0%) - added after boil, steeped 30 m
2 oz CitraTM (12.0%) - added dry to secondary fermenter
2 oz Simcoe® (13.0%) - added dry to secondary fermenter

Yeast: Fermentis US-05 Safale US-05
Style:
Recipe
OG: 1.062
FG 1.014
5.4 SRM
6.25% ABV

Notes:
2 TSP Gypsum to HLT - 152F mash - 90 min. - 1.25qt/lb grist
Dry hop 7-10 days
Cold crash 3-4 days
add gelatin / keg

I'll provide some photos and tasting notes when this one is done.

 

[kchomebrew]

Transferred to the secondary yesterday. As an update, I split the 10 gal batch into separate 5 gal fermenters and used a mix of US05/US04 yeast in one and the other was all US05. Instead of dry hopping with a mix of citra and simcoe, I went with 3oz. of citra whole leaf to each of the batches for secondary dry hopping. Will let these dry hop for 7-10 days and then will keg. Gravity reading was 1.014 on the US05 only batch (didn't take a reading on the mix batch..will do that before I keg).

 

[CBMbrewer]

I think that looks really good. The wheat should be pretty prevalent since you used pilsner malt as the base. The oats should give it a nice creamy mouth feel. In the future I would say move the 30 min amarillo down to 20 or 15. You wont get a whole lot of flavor from 30 mins. The hop profile looks really tasty though! Wheat tends to gelatinize and cause lautering and sparging issues. When brewing with wheat its always a good idea to throw in a half pound or so of rice hulls. I like my ipa's a bit dryer but obviously that's personal taste. How much yeast did you pitch? I find my dryhop aroma peeks at about 5 days. I like the idea of mixing yeast. I've been wanting to try that. Looking forward to pics and reports!

 

[kchomebrew]

I added the amarillo in at 30min. because I wanted to bring in some bitterness. Was more interested in producing some grassy bitterness with a 30min. addition than bringing out the amarillo aroma/flavor profile. I opted not to add as a later addition because Amarillo (IMO) tends to overwhelm all other hops when mixed in (really wish I would have had some more Bravo or some other bittering hop and did more as FWH). I pitched 2 packets of dry yeast (rehydrated) to 5.5gal. of wort vol. Yeah, I agree about mixing yeasts. I like that the English US04 variety flocculates better than US05. Not only that, I find English varieties of yeast often do a good job of backing off the hop profile. It was evident between the two batches that the US04/US05 mix was already significantly clearer. The US04/US05 batch was already clearing while the US05 batch was still quite cloudy.

 

[kchomebrew]

Add fermenters into the fridge for a cold crash of about 3 days and then will keg.

 

[kchomebrew]

Kegged batch 1 that is US05 yeast only. FG reading was 1.014. As suspected, aroma is amazing (citrus, melon, and white wine) and sample surprisingly had some pine to it on the finish. I'm assuming this would be the amarillo and bravo. This ought to be a very interesting beer once it's good and carbed. Brilliantly clear on the FG reading. Should be a very crisp, clear beer. Should have a drinkable carbed beer by this weekend. I'll post some notes if it looks/tastes ready.

Waiting for my keg of pumpkin esb to kick (sad to see this one go, it's been an awesome beer, but I've got the same version on deck but with london ale yeast) so I can keg the US05/US04 yeast mix White IPA batch.

 

[kchomebrew]

Pumpkin ESB kicked today so I kegged batch 2 uso4 us05 mix of the white IPA. Fg was1.014.

 

[Bambooshoot]

How did the hydro sample taste? I love this recipe. Looks very similar to one I kegged on Sunday, except with about 3x the hops. I stuck closer to the Deschutes recipe, with Bravo for bittering and Centennial/Cascade for flavor and aroma, plus some citra and mosaic for fun. My hydro sample was fantastic, lots of citrus aroma... lemon and grapefruit. I also used US-05 for a nice clean yeast character.

 

[MindenMan]

I made an American Amber Ale a while back, and came up with 7 gallons of 1.042 if I remember right. Anyway, I added 1/2 oz of Amarillo dry hop for 5 days to the 3 gallon bucket, and 1 oz Amarillo to the 4 gallon bucket. At first I really didn't love either one. As time passed, the 3 gallon batch had nice mild flavor Amarillo note to it, and the 4 gallon batch developed a "orange candy" flavor. It's not bad per se, but it was my very first dry hopping experiment. The 3 gallon (or what's left of it) is SHMBO's preferred drink of the two. Next time I dry hop something that I believe could use it, I will not use just a single hop. I will probably use a Citra, Simcoe, and maybe a touch of Amarillo, to build a balanced floral/fruit nose.

 

[kchomebrew]

I made an American Amber Ale a while back, and came up with 7 gallons of 1.042 if I remember right. Anyway, I added 1/2 oz of Amarillo dry hop for 5 days to the 3 gallon bucket, and 1 oz Amarillo to the 4 gallon bucket. At first I really didn't love either one. As time passed, the 3 gallon batch had nice mild flavor Amarillo note to it, and the 4 gallon batch developed a "orange candy" flavor. It's not bad per se, but it was my very first dry hopping experiment. The 3 gallon (or what's left of it) is SHMBO's preferred drink of the two. Next time I dry hop something that I believe could use it, I will not use just a single hop. I will probably use a Citra, Simcoe, and maybe a touch of Amarillo, to build a balanced floral/fruit nose.

Agree. Good to dry hop with a mix to add depth and layers to the aroma and flavor. Simcoe balances well with numerous kinds. I personally like simcoe and citra and simcoe and centennial mixes. Another good one is Amarillo and cascade.

 

[kchomebrew]

The finished product. Having a few and will post tasting notes soon. Damn good ! Citra and Nelson hops !

 

[kchomebrew]

Pours golden clear. Nice frothy white head, good lacing on the glass. Aroma is orange peel, white wine, lemongrass. Taste is lemon bitter on the front and moves instantly to grapefruity citrus. Finishes slightly dry with lemon. Mouthfeel is slightly effervescent, body of the beer is medium, not very sweet considering the FG. Malt stays out of the way of the hops. I like this. Highly enjoyable IPA. Would have been interesting to have split this batch with a Belgian yeast strain. Haven't tried the US04 batch I made (this is with US05). I think I would make sure to add a more robust dry hop like amarillo, centennial or cascade with the citra. I won't do citra only in the future. Maybe citra simcoe would have been best to stick with. Anyway, brew this one. It works !

 

[kchomebrew]

Thought I post another photo since this one looks and tastes so damn good !

 

[kchomebrew]

So this is odd. I bottled a few of these off the keg and had them stored away. Cracked one this weekend and it's better than ever !? I thought really hoppy aromatic beer fades after time ? This one is killer right now ! wTF ? Note to self. I guess I'll let these condition in the secondary for a full month before I dry hop next time. Hmmm.