White house beer

[iowabeer]

So here's my issue. I bought the Northern Brewer White House Honey Ale and I followed all the directions except I added the honey at 60 min instead of the last 5 minutes. So I'm assuming this will pretty much negate the honey flavor. So the recipe leaves a half once of both East Kent Goldings and UK Fuggles that are not used. Any thoughts of using these to dry hop after a week in primary? I realize adding the honey too early messed with the flavor, so I'm thinking of dry hopping.

 

[Furrey]

Most likely user error on my initial reading. Took a sample last night and it tasted fantastic. Smooth, dark and rich - just like I love my women.
I bottled half last night and added vanilla beans to the other half.

 

[bwirthlin]

In Russia, stout drink you!

A little late reading this, but that's hands down the best post on this whole thread.

 

[Zuljin]

1.018 going into bottles for 6.79% abv

This sample tasted much like the last. A malty sweetness with another sweetness from the honey and a hops flavor that is there but not overpowering. It tastes more sweet than hoppy. Already I can tell this is a beer I'm glad I brewed.

 

[Netflyer]

Furrey I'm betting you meant 1.01 and not 1.000... also you really don't have to worry about autolysis an such a small time interval. Many of us including myself have primaried for months w/out autolysis... I typically go 3 weeks primary no secondary unless i"m specifically trying to clear something up with gelatin, in which case I secondary... but I've left big and small brews in my primaries for over 2 months and had no ill effects, no autolysis... so worries about autolysis are not really justified unless you forget for a very long time....
So I think you added so much honey your OG was over 1.01 and with that much honey I'd be surprised if you finished below 1.020 certainly not below 1.015 but 1.000, impossible

 

[UKbrewguy]

Hi all,

I am brewing the White House Honey Porter DME kit and I was hoping to make some mods to it. My intention was to make a gingerbread style porter for Christmas by adding some spices, reducing the honey, and replacing the Munich malt with biscuit malt. Unfortunately, the manufacturer combined all of the grains into 1 bag. Should I scrap the Gingerbread idea?

 

[bknifefight]

You can still spice it. Keep all the honey in it, also. In a beer like a porter, the honey is far too delicate to come through. It will just boost the ABV.

 

[RM-MN]

Brew this kit as the manufacturer says and then buy separate ingredients to do it your way. That way you can compare the two.

Oh, maybe you wouldn't want that much beer?

 

[superfknmario]

So I added the extra lb of honey yesterday(was supposed to add it on Wednesday, but got home really late)

Anyway, I didn't remove the lid and added it through the hole where the stopper goes. Today, it is bubbling a few times per minute. I plan on racking it into a secondary next weekend and leaving it there for 2-4 weeks.

To those of you that have made this recipe:

How long did you leave it in primary?

Did you use a secondary? If so, for how long?

How long did you bottle condition?

Would you recommend just leaving it in the primary?

Thanks in advance!

 

[MtnHiBrewin]

That's a pretty picture, Zuljin. I plan to brew the White House porter soon. I have a friend that asked me to brew it for her and I just got the ingredients in. It's sounded good since I first heard about it.

 

[UKbrewguy]

Thanks guys. 10 gal is a lot of beer, so I think I'll spice it and call it a day

 

[UKbrewguy]

Any thoughts on the biscuit malt? Thanks again guys!

 

[Chriso]

I brewed the Honey Porter today. Things went well, though I wound up short a half gallon of volume. C'est la vie. Smells and tastes awesome. Pitched a yeast cake of S-04 from a small Mild Ale that I just did in 7 days.

 

[jimbot]

I finally cracked one open! I brewed a full-grain conversion of this on Sep 2nd. It was bottled Sep 25.

Into the glass it poured a nice translucent red-brown amber, with plenty of head foam. Minutes later the head had dissipated, and the aroma I found fruity, mostly strawberry. Subtle floral and some caramel. Taste was fruity again, subtle bready up front, and after a moment it transitioned to a slight bitter, that I can only describe as a balanced noble hop flavor. It finished out dry and slightly hot, but that lasted quite some time. It really encouraged another sip. The mouthfeel is medium-heavy, which I'm surprised considering I mashed at 148, and I think I over-carbonated a touch. Light lacing on the glass, which for some reason makes me smile thinking I did something right.

Overall, it actually balances out the dry-alcohol from the honey with the english hop character pretty well. Between the yeast fruity-ness and biscuit flavors I think this has some other subtleness to round it out, so I'd call it multi-faceted.

It was fun to brew in the footsteps of white house chefs. I may have to try the porter one day if I have some free time in the pipeline for my fermentator.
--Jimbot

Note that in the pic it's a 22 oz bottle, not miniature glassware.

 

[bennie1986]

Brewed the white house honey ale last night and forgot to add the honey. By the time i realized this i was chilling my kettle in an ice bath and was at about 170f. Still hit my OG spot on and fermentation has taken off well over night. Guess thats what happens when im trying to bottle another batch at the same time lol! O well cant wait to see how it turns out!

 

[Reno_eNVy]

You can always heat the honey to 180*F (don't boil, you'll lose a lot of flavor/aroma compounds) and add it to the fermenter after it's cooled.

 

[Golddiggie]

I only add honey to a brew after it's chilled. Better to add it once fermentation has at least slowed down. Adding it to the wort while it's above 110F means you'll start losing flavor additions from it. Adding it during the boil, or even close to that temperature blows away flavor/aroma. You might as well use plain sugar at that point. IF you want ANY contribution from the honey (beyond more ABV%) don't heat it. Also don't move the brew after adding the honey until you're 100% sure its been consumed/mixed into the brew. Give it 1-4 weeks after adding the honey (depending on how much you add) before even thinking about transferring the brew.

 

[ChuckH]

Read somewhere that Hussein and Michelle drank some of this at the White House.

Hutch

 

[hoppybrewster]

Just did the Honey Ale. I could not find the Windsor but I had a Wyeast 1335 in fridge. Was this a mistake?

 

[sweetcell]

Just did the Honey Ale. I could not find the Windsor but I had a Wyeast 1335 in fridge. Was this a mistake?

i certainly don't think so. while not identical, i think they're similar enough that the end result will be very comparable. should be a great beer.

 

[ggoodman]

back to the original topic, any one poured a glass of this yet? how did it work out.

 

[Pappers_]

Decided to rack to secondary and cold crash - it looked like it could benefit from this. Took a gravity reading - down from 1.053 to 1.010. Interestingly, there was a nice honey aroma - I used some great honey from a local beekeeper/mead maker.

I don't think I ever posted this - its the recipe we used and other info http://www.singingboysbrewing.com/White-House-Honey-Ale.html

 

[ReaderRabbit]

I have to admit, when I saw the recipe I was disappointed and asked myself why I cared about it in the first place, I mean what was I expecting.

Then I realized, it wasn't too different from how whenever there's someone else in the grain room and I want to ask them what they're making. Its just exciting to compare notes, especially when its someone so prominent.

That and after the beer summit, I was relieved to hear that the President had better taste than it initially seemed.

 

[robotgas]

I had always wanted to try my hand at home brewing, but when the White House released their recipes, I finally made the jump.

I ordered the WH Honey Ale (extract) kit from Austin Homebrew Supply and have had a blast.
I just bottled 3 days ago, so (fingers crossed) will have a tasty sneak peak on Oct 27, and an abundance of tasty brews for election night.

I have a couple of beer nerd friends here in Dallas that helped with last minute freak-out questions, but I've also learned a lot from digging deep into the awesomeness of the HBTalk forums. Thanks to everyone that contributes!

I'm looking forward to batch #2!

 

[Pappers_]

I had always wanted to try my hand at home brewing, but when the White House released their recipes, I finally made the jump.

I ordered the WH Honey Ale (extract) kit from Austin Homebrew Supply and have had a blast.
I just bottled 3 days ago, so (fingers crossed) will have a tasty sneak peak on Oct 27, and an abundance of tasty brews for election night.

I have a couple of beer nerd friends here in Dallas that helped with last minute freak-out questions, but I've also learned a lot from digging deep into the awesomeness of the HBTalk forums. Thanks to everyone that contributes!

I'm looking forward to batch #2!

Welcome to HBT and congrats on your first batch!

 

[bottlebomber]

Great, one more guy to have to fight for hops with..

 

[itsernst]

Just transferred to secondary and man does it smell awesome. Anyone know what the ABV is expected to be?

 

[robotgas]

Thanks, Pappers.
Bottlebomber, if that comment was aimed at me, no need to worry. While I respect the need for hops, I am by no means a hophead. Knock yourself out!

 

[robotgas]

Itsernst- my batch is calculating to 5.74%. I see others on this thread have much higher. I didn't opt for the "alcohol boost" available for my kit, so maybe that's why.

 

[bottlebomber]

Thanks, Pappers.
Bottlebomber, if that comment was aimed at me, no need to worry. While I respect the need for hops, I am by no means a hophead. Knock yourself out!

That's what everyone says at first! And then before you know it, you'll be up early checking the sites to beat me out