when am i gonna get sick and croak?

[lfark]

i have never used any chemicals to sterilize just sunlight detergent and dry thoroughly.

i put the bottles in the oven for fifteen minutes just before bottling.

going on about 6 or 7 batches. should we start a lottery?

 

[Yooper]

You'll never get sick and croak. Well, not from homebrew anyway. No known human pathogens can survive in beer. Now, you might get some infections in your brew, primarily lactobacilus, but it'll just taste sour and won't kill you.

 

[Professor Frink]

Man, I wonder what's in the Sunlight detergent. Detergent probably sanitizes, but I imagine it must kill the head on the beer. One word - Iodophor.

 

[lfark]

Man, I wonder what's in the Sunlight detergent. Detergent probably sanitizes, but I imagine it must kill the head on the beer. One word - Iodophor.

i rinse very well and with all the crap in the city water i am pretty sure there isn't much left of the sunlight.

 

[Moonshae]

If you're rinsing the soap out and baking your bottles at a high enough temp, you're fine, but doing things the hard way. You'd be better off using a real sanitizer at bottling (one step, Star San, iodophor) and just rinsing your bottles in plain (yes, PLAIN) wanter immediately after you empty them.

 

[Sea]

i have never used any chemicals to sterilize just sunlight detergent and dry thoroughly.

i put the bottles in the oven for fifteen minutes just before bottling.

going on about 6 or 7 batches. should we start a lottery?

Do you have an objection to sanitizers? The word chemical doesn't mean bad, and there are plenty of chemicals in that sunlight.

It's kind of like ignoring an oil leak in your car, it'll work for a while, but at some point you are gauranteed to have a problem.

 

[lfark]

beer has been brewed for at least two thousand years. i bet they didn't have san san or any other sterilizer two thousand years ago. fear is a great selling tactic i think.

 

[mullimat]

You'll never get sick and croak. Well, not from homebrew anyway. No known human pathogens can survive in beer. Now, you might get some infections in your brew, primarily lactobacilus, but it'll just taste sour and won't kill you.

I've read this around a lot but i don't know if anyone knows that Shakespeare died from contaminated beer. And on his birthday no less! Wonder what it was contaminated with.

But just in case, I call your brewing equipment!

 

[Yooper]

beer has been brewed for at least two thousand years. i bet they didn't have san san or any other sterilizer two thousand years ago. fear is a great selling tactic i think.

My fear isn't from sickness- not at all. My fear (which leads to sanitization of my equipment) is aceterobacter or lactobacillus which are harmless but tastes really bad and I would never, ever, want to dump a batch of $25 (or more) ingredients plus my time.

But, if your method works for you, that's great!

My point is not that I am right, and anybody else is wrong. My method works for me, and in over 150 batches of beer, and probably 100 of wine, I've never once had a contaminated batch. So, I'll stick with what works for me.

And, I believe Shakespeare's death remains a mystery- after a night of drinking, he did die. But there was also an outbreak of typhus at that time as well. Theories abound- but his drinking partners lived on!

 

[Hagen]

Willie's death might have something to do with the fact that at the time in England, they drew ther water from the same rivers they dumped their sewage in...

 

[lfark]

first time my beer is contaminated (how to tell?), i will change methods.

the reason that beer and wine were popular back then was because it was safer than water. bachus was a celebrated god. every englishman brewed his own beer in the middle ages because it was self sterilizing. alcohol should have killed the typhus or cholera i think?

 

[html034]

beer has been brewed for at least two thousand years. i bet they didn't have san san or any other sterilizer two thousand years ago. fear is a great selling tactic i think.

yeah, but you don't know what that beer tasted like either

 

[lfark]

yeah, but you don't know what that beer tasted like either

much better i would guess.

 

[Hagen]

much better i would guess.

Probably just the opposite. They didn't know how the mash worked, nor did they know how yeast worked. They just knew to cook grains in water, and the probably boiled the grains, and added the trub from the previous batch as they knew something in it contained the magic.

 

[lfark]

you buy green peppers these days? every once in a while i buy green peppers that taste like green peppers!

i am sure all food tasted much better a hundred years ago. today it is mostly processed ****.

they were feeding cows to cows just a short time ago, till it was outlawed but i bet it still goes on.

i imagine every form of food was much tastier even a hundred years ago.

remember when your dad sprinkled parmesan cheese on his spaghetti? it stunk up the whole house. not any more.

 

[olllllo]

Didn't you come here asking questions?

 

[Yuri_Rage]

i have never used any chemicals to sterilize just sunlight detergent and dry thoroughly.

i put the bottles in the oven for fifteen minutes just before bottling.

going on about 6 or 7 batches. should we start a lottery?

No, we don't sing praise for bad brewing practices here.

Just because you've been lucky doesn't mean others should follow your methods. Dish detergent will destroy a beer's head retention. Dish towels notoriously harbor the kind of bacteria we want to avoid when brewing. The "chemical" many of us use is StarSan - which is simply an inexpensive, weak, food-grade phosphoric acid blend that creates a bacteria unfriendly (low pH) environment but dilutes to a harmless, edible concentration whenever beer is added to a container with StarSan residue. It also acts as a yeast nutrient of sorts.

Ask anyone who's ever had an infection how much more meticulous they became.

 

[Denny's Evil Concoctions]

Ifark, you must be either ignorant or a troll. DO some damn research. Read some beer history. Then you can come back and tell us we were right, cause you won't be coming back to tell us we were wrong.

 

[lfark]

so far no feared contamination.

if it ain't broke don't try to fix it?

 

[Denny's Evil Concoctions]

What is the point of your original post then?

 

[Yuri_Rage]

so far no feared contamination.

if it ain't broke don't try to fix it?

That's fine, but it's not really a sound practice, so don't expect us to high five over it or recommend it to anyone else.

 

[BuffaloSabresBrewer]

if it ain't broke don't try to fix it?

My car still runs...why change the oil?

 

[landhoney]

My car still runs...why change the oil?

Because eventually it will break down if you don't. That's an easy one, even for me.

To the OP: My Parmigiano stinks and has been made the same way for hundred of years, not sure what you're using to sanitize your carboys but it works for me???

 

[Ryanh1801]

I like to use urine to sanitize. Its free and plentiful, give it a shot sometime.

 

[olllllo]

Lets not chum the waters anymore please.

 

[lfark]

Because eventually it will break down if you don't. That's an easy one, even for me.

To the OP: My Parmigiano stinks and has been made the same way for hundred of years, not sure what you're using to sanitize your carboys but it works for me???

is parmigano parmesan?

 

[landhoney]

Lets not chum the waters anymore please.

My bad yo. I did just compare your mod skills to Davinci and Michelangelo though:
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?t=9010&page=5
Don't I get to stir the pot a little???

 

[BlindLemonLars]

I like to use urine to sanitize. Its free and plentiful, give it a shot sometime.

It's no good on spaghetti though.

 

[html034]

wow, this thread turned ugly fast

with a weird spaghetti tangent

 

[lfark]

is this a sans sans website? i see it mentioned in every thread. dishonest type marketing? the wave of the present.