Whats my og?

[marnor]

I made a cider but didn't check my OG. I used 10L apple juice and put 6kg of sugar(much more then I planned wanted only 3kg). Can someone tell me what my og might have been? Also did i just F it up with that much sugar. Im planning to use it for applejack.

 

[bu_gee]

Sucrose adds 384 points per kilogram per liter.

I don't know where your apple juice started, but you can buy some more and measure. The sugar should have added 230 points.

 

[marnor]

I used granulated sugar. Is the 230 points the total of 6kgs worth? Or 1kg?

 

[marnor]

The apple juice alone was 1.050

 

[stella_tigre]

384 points per 1 kg sucrose per liter. You added 6 kg to 10 liters, so 384 x 6 / 10 is 230.4 points. What kind of yeast?

 

[bu_gee]

With the juice at 1.050, your OG would have been 1.280 or thereabouts.

 

[marnor]

Ec1118, thanks for the help.

 

[stella_tigre]

Seems like a lotta sugar to me. Not a yeast expert but EC1118 is a beastie. Is there any way to dilute with apple juice, and hold onto some of this super sweet to make another batch? 1.28 will be far more than the EC1118 can eat, if it can even get off the ground with it.

 

[marnor]

Yeah i know. It is bubbling and a-little head if foam but cant see it getting low enough with that much sugar.

 

[marnor]

View attachment ImageUploadedByHome Brew1427068741.152719.jpgView attachment ImageUploadedByHome Brew1427068763.976562.jpg. Does this look ok? Ive only made beer and it foams this is different. I got airlock activity a bubble every 30 seconds but i would think it should be more

 

[marnor]

Today the gravity was 1.150 tasted it and its sweet. Airlock is still bubbling slowly.

 

[MindenMan]

In theory, if your O.G was 1.280, your possible ABV is 29% and that yeast won't go that far. You could consider diluting it with apple juice and letting it ferment out to finish with a 18% ABV. An 18% batch of hard cider after "jacking" will really put on the proof. If you only collect 1/2 your original volume after freezing, (depending upon the temperature of your freezer), you might get 40% (80 proof), but there is no accurate way to measure as far as I know. In my experience I don't want my hard ciders all the way dried out before freezing, as slightly sweet a/j ages much more nicely than dry ciders do. YMMV

 

[marnor]

Should I buy more juice and yeast and split the batch in two?

 

[MindenMan]

If you have the space I would split it adding more juice and yeast. You might want to consider some sort of yeast energizer at this point, that way, your yeast will not be too stressed and will minimize the possibility of "off" flavors. I make a lot of applejack and I never add "sugar", I use frozen juice concentrate. It is a bit more expensive method to use, but I believe the flavor is improved. EC-1118 is a monster yeast and ferments very quickly. I personally prefer Red Star Pasteur Red wine yeast, over any other yeast I have tried. It also has an 18% alcohol tolerance and ferments a bit slower, and to me strips out less apple flavor while fermenting. I have used with great success, bakers yeast boiled in water before adding to my fermenter. I did two side-by-side tester batches, and the boiled bakers yeast batch started a little sooner and finished a little sooner as well.

 

[marnor]

Ok i will buy more juice today and go get more yeast i have yeast energizer

 

[MindenMan]

Great! Keep us posted.

 

[marnor]

I bought 6Litres more juice,racked the sweet mixture over the new juice added 3cups water and 5g packet of ec-1118

 

[marnor]

As of now i've bottled some and froze some . The stuff I froze and drained off was sweet with the alc bite at the end. It was drinkable but not really good. Ive tried it with beer and it feels like cider. I'm thinking the bottled stuff might be alittle better,probably just very sweet. I will do it again maybe just be sure to get the amount of sugar right.

 

[MindenMan]

Marnor, my first pulls from the jug are not always dry or sweet, it is usually how I blend them right before bottling time (If i blend them) to get the specific character I want in my finished Applejack.