What the heck is a SMASH????

[BierMuncher]

I did one SMaSH last Spring.

Marris Otter and Nugget hops. Toasted some portions of the MO for different lengths of time for some complexity.

It was an okay beer, but nothing extraordinary.The beer was just sort of...one dimensional (obviously). Maybe it was because I wanted to do an APA that I fell short. Without some crystal or carapils, there was just no depth to the beer. A SMaSH might be more suited for a kolsch or lighter session beer where complexity is not needed.

I doubt I'll ever do another (unless forced to for lack of ingredients).

 

[Laughing_Gnome_Invisible]

I did one SMaSH last Spring.

Marris Otter and Nugget hops. Toasted some portions of the MO for different lengths of time for some complexity.

It was an okay beer, but nothing extraordinary.The beer was just sort of...one dimensional (obviously). Maybe it was because I wanted to do an APA that I fell short. Without some crystal or carapils, there was just no depth to the beer. A SMaSH might be more suited for a kolsch or lighter session beer where complexity is not needed.

I doubt I'll ever do another (unless forced to for lack of ingredients).

This is my worry. I'm gonna have to drink 2X5 galons of the stuff simply because I refuse to do smaller batches. I consider it an education though, and something that needs to be done. Clint Eastwood would be proud of me for my sacrifice.

 

[Orfy]

Agreed.

Nothing new about single malts and hops.

I'm saying as far as I'm aware the acronym was coined here or at least it's the first time I've ever heard the style/technique/method called SMaSH (ing) I obviously had heard of single malt an hop brews.

HBT also the only place I've heard it advocated collectively on an ongoing basis.
I'd no way ever claim I'm smart enough to be the first in anything to do with brewing.
I just stated I was using the principle to learn and cheesefood was the first person I'm aware if to use the SMaSH acronym to describe it. I'll find the thread.
Now Wortmonger or Yuri I'm sure could definitely claim a few firsts for themselves.

I also agree that it not just for AGers.

As for bland I think that may come from using a bland malt rather than something with a bit of depth.

 

[Orfy]

Here ya go.

Orfy's Single Hop / Single Malt brew day got me thinking about organizing a group brew and swap. So if anyone is interested, I'd like to propose the SMaSH Swap!

One malt
One Hop

This is going to be an All-Grain Only swap, since that's the only way to ensure purity. (Sorry everyone else.)

If you're interested, post which hop/grain combo you'll do. I'd like to make sure there are no duplicates in the bunch.

Ok, so here are the rules:

1 base grain only - 2-row, Vienna, Marris Otter, 6-Row, Pale, Munich, Pilsner.
10 pounds grain, mashed at ~ 155º for 60 minutes (for 5 gallons)
1 Hop only, any kind.
3 Hop additions - 1oz @ 60, 1 oz @ 20, 1oz @ 5
Nottingham yeast
1-2-3 cycle.
Brew Jan 20th and ship March 3rd.

My thinking is that standardizing the recipe will make sure we all have an equal brew and no "Imperial" or over-hopped beers.

Any one interested?

I'm thinking for mine that I'd like to do Vienna / Amarillo.

I've been threatening to do it for I while.
Today is the Day.
A single malt and a single hop for a Single malt beer.
Marris Otter and Fuggles. What else.:rockin:The best combination ever.
I think I'll go for a 4% medium temp mash with balance bitterness.

I'm considering making my next 3 batches like this one at 4% one at 5% and one at over 6%.
I want to get back to basics (not that I've strayed far) to enable me to get my technique honed.

 

[Laughing_Gnome_Invisible]

Quote: I've been threatening to do it for I while.
Today is the Day.
A single malt and a single hop for a Single malt beer.
Marris Otter and Fuggles. What else.:rockin:The best combination ever.
I think I'll go for a 4% medium temp mash with balance bitterness.

I'm considering making my next 3 batches like this one at 4% one at 5% and one at over 6%.
I want to get back to basics (not that I've strayed far) to enable me to get my technique honed.


That's interesting. My firtst SMaSH will be MO and fuggles. I hadn't even considered yet about messing with gravity. So many other variables that can be tried too! .......Do you have a link as to how that MO/Fuggles turned out?

 

[maltMonkey]

Quote: I've been threatening to do it for I while.
Today is the Day.
A single malt and a single hop for a Single malt beer.
Marris Otter and Fuggles. What else.:rockin:The best combination ever.
I think I'll go for a 4% medium temp mash with balance bitterness.

I'm considering making my next 3 batches like this one at 4% one at 5% and one at over 6%.
I want to get back to basics (not that I've strayed far) to enable me to get my technique honed.


That's interesting. My firtst SMaSH will be MO and fuggles. I hadn't even considered yet about messing with gravity. So many other variables that can be tried too! .......Do you have a link as to how that MO/Fuggles turned out?

I've been thinking about making one of these too....possibly an English IPA.....

....thinking about calling it "Go Fuggle Yourself".....

 

[Orfy]

That's interesting. My firtst SMaSH will be MO and fuggles. I hadn't even considered yet about messing with gravity. So many other variables that can be tried too! .......Do you have a link as to how that MO/Fuggles turned out?

Not to hand but to tempt you this is a MO-FUG SMasH

 

[flyangler18]

The view out the window is as equally inviting as the beer!

 

[TeufelBrew]

Orfy, That's just beautiful.... And MEAN!!!!

Stuck at work and NO ETOH allowed.

(Homer Simpson voice) MMMMMMMMM Gooooooooooodddddd Beeeeeeerrrrrr!

 

[Laughing_Gnome_Invisible]

Not to hand but to tempt you this is a MO-FUG SMasH

Oh yeah!!...and thanks!!!



I am SOOOoooo frigging brewing tomorrow morning!!!

 

[bull8042]

Oh yeah!!...and thanks!!!



I am SOOOoooo frigging brewing tomorrow morning!!!

Wait a freakin' minute! No fair bringing this up and not posting the recipe....

Oh, and nice view orfy. Put some bewbies in the background (not too distant) and it would be a perfect picture.

 

[IrregularPulse]

I have a 10G MO/Galena SMaSH fermenting right now. I'm then going to Oak 5G of it. It'll let me taste MO, Galena, and what exactly the oak brings to it.

 

[maltMonkey]

Not to hand but to tempt you this is a MO-FUG SMasH

Hey Orfy,

Did you toast some of the MO to get that beautiful amber color, or is that a __really__ big beer?

 

[Orfy]

Bit of a trick of the light and it's oaked.

 

[Orfy]

I need to stop looking at this thread I get a thirst each time.

 

[Saccharomyces]

I'm thinking SMaSH IPA using my favorite malt and favorite hop, since I'm Jonesin' for a hoppy brew:

11# Maris Otter
0.5oz Cascade FWH
1oz Cascade 75
2.5oz Cascade 20
2oz Cascade DH (in keg)

Toast 2# of the MO 20 minutes @350*F. Mash 152*F 60 minutes. Pitch a package of Safale S-04 Whitbread yeast to bring out the malt character. Toss in a few ounces of Bourbon chips and the hops before racking into the keg, so it ages on the oak and the hops... will be interesting to see how the flavor changes as it ages. I might cask condition it too...

1.060, 56 IBUs.

 

[maltMonkey]

I need to stop looking at this thread I get a thirst each time.

I can almost taste it from the picture.......

 

[bull8042]

Maybe I am way off base here, but isn't the addition of bourbon or oaking defeating the purpose of SMaSHing? That seems as if it would adulterate the result. Not that there is anything wrong with the techniques, but it seems to me that using a single grain and hop is the idea. Otherwise, you are merely brewing a simple recipe....

 

[Sherpa FE]

HBT Fail.

AND thats why when people are smart arses when they answer questions just pisses me off.
Never know who it is, or if they are the next HBT lifetime member supoporter.
Just plain rude, call it hazing, fun with the noobs, or what you will. Its just plain rude.
We were all noobs once, and if you cant remember that and answer appropriately, dont answer.

 

[mmb]

AND thats why when people are smart arses when they answer questions just pisses me off.
Never know who it is, or if they are the next HBT lifetime member supoporter.
Just plain rude, call it hazing, fun with the noobs, or what you will. Its just plain rude.
We were all noobs once, and if you cant remember that and answer appropriately, dont answer.

Point. (blah blah blah 10char)

 

[Laughing_Gnome_Invisible]

AND thats why when people are smart arses when they answer questions just pisses me off.
Never know who it is, or if they are the next HBT lifetime member supoporter.
Just plain rude, call it hazing, fun with the noobs, or what you will. Its just plain rude.
We were all noobs once, and if you cant remember that and answer appropriately, dont answer.

You are quite right there. The opinion of a lifetime supporter is no more or less valid than anyone else's.

I agree with your post to an extent, but there are ways of having a bit of fun without being disrespectful or offensive. Things just don't always work out that way. thats just life.

 

[bull8042]

You are quite right there. The opinion of a lifetime supporter is no more or less valid than anyone else's.

I agree with your post to an extent, but there are ways of having a bit of fun without being disrespectful or offensive. Things just don't always work out that way. thats just life.

Hey LG, are you trying to make a serious post here.... Pretty out of character and scaring me a little.

WHO THE HELL ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH OUR GNOME?!?!

 

[Orfy]

The point of smashing (my point) Is to learn.
Even though I'm adding extras it is still a Single Malt and Single Hop recipe

I've done MO and Fuggles 12 times now.
Each time is a variation

I tend to do MO/FUG virgin every 2 or 3 batches. Different IBU and OG. I've still never repeated a recipe. I've started doing some 2 x 3gallon batches at a time.
In between its been with some MO roasted or a decoction or with fruit or spices
Once I'm happy I tried all the things that will change the taste. (That I want to)
I'll then go on to experiment and try technique variations.

I'm lucky that I like plain old MO and fuggle beers. Even when I've exhausted my want to try list I'll still be brewing MO/FUG Smashes just because I like them.

I'm only precaculating a few of my recipes most of the time I just taking a few writen note on volume of ingredients used. I very rarely weigh ingredients now.
Even the volumes are from a known container rather than an actual measured volume.

 

[Freezeblade]

The point of smashing (my point) Is to learn.
Even though I'm adding extras it is still a Single Malt and Single Hop recipe

I've done MO and Fuggles 12 times now.
Each time is a variation

I tend to do MO/FUG virgin every 2 or 3 batches. Different IBU and OG. I've still never repeated a recipe.
In between its been with some MO roasted or a decoction or with fruit or spices
Once I'm happy I tried all the things that will change the taste. (That I want to)
I'll then go on to experiment and try technique variations.

I'm lucky that I like plain old MO and fuggle beers. Even when I've exhausted my want to try list I'll still be brewing MO/FUG Smashes just because I like them.

I'm only precaculating a few of my recipes most of the time I just taking a few writen note on volume of ingredients used. I very rarely weigh ingredients now.
Even the volumes are from a known container rather than an actual measured volume.

with 12 different variations of MO/Fuggle, what combo would you say is your fav, and if that's too hard, top 5 in no order.

 

[IrregularPulse]

AND thats why when people are smart arses when they answer questions just pisses me off.
Never know who it is, or if they are the next HBT lifetime member supoporter.
Just plain rude, call it hazing, fun with the noobs, or what you will. Its just plain rude.
We were all noobs once, and if you cant remember that and answer appropriately, dont answer.

It's all in good fun. Plus the answers are easy enough to find with a simple search or reading a threads. I enjoy "hazing" the people because I think of HBT as a club and because if they actually tried to search and read they'd find it in no time. Not to mention it's not Life/Death if they know.
If some posts asking how to wire up an E-Kettle or even something less severe such as assitance in a recipe or brewing method, we wouldn't joke them around. But this has to affect on anything.

 

[bull8042]

Thanks Orfy, that makes sense. I appreciate the clarification.

 

[Orfy]

A lot of them I've liked as a one off but they wouldn't be my "go to beer"

The oaked smash was a favourite, , it's one I did with a "calculated recipe" hence it's in my recipes. I like the hoppier but not overly malty IPA types at around 4 to 4.5%

I did a spiced ale at 7% that is a sort of one a 12oz bottle after a meal brew but it had a residue similar to a red wine. that coated your teeth. (see below***)

I'm ready to move on now and try something new. Like I said I'll use the SMaSH brewing to do method tests and do some of my favourite from time to time but I'll be looking at other types of recipes.

***The spices for the spiced ale come with fond memories of a trip to the High Atlas mountains and a long trip to find a fabled Berber spice dealer. His special mix of spices said to contain rare and little known spices with hallucinogenic properties would only be sold to travellers introduced by trusted friends. In reality it was the spilt spices swept from the floor with a little "herb mixed in" consequently it can't be replicated and probably accounts for the residue in the beer.
I have run out and need to make a tip bake to get some more

 

[Orfy]

Several people have been asking for more pictures of my "Yard".

 

[bull8042]

Yeah, and I requested bewbies too. Sooooo.....

 

[shecky]

Several people have been asking for more pictures of my "Yard".

Dang, Orfy, that is nice. I need a landscaper and my Brit friend lives right next door. You guys could commiserate.