What I did for beer today

[MaxStout]

I'm generally in the room temp glass camp, but there are a few styles that need a chilled glass--light lagers, etc. Like @grampamark said, the key is to rinse out the ice from inside the glass before pouring. Or chill to refrigerator temp.

A lot of the pet peeves out there are more like

 

[Bramling Cross]

What I did for beer yesterday...because I was too tired to write this up last night.

After officially saying that my years-long Panther Piss American adjunct lager project had ended at the start of the year, yesterday (like a dog returning to its sick) I brewed another Panther Piss series beer.

I quickly settled on 10% rice in the core Panther Piss adjunct package, but I always wondered about doing a full rice adjunct package. Yesterday, I brought shame upon the world by bringing Panther Piss Super Dry into the world. Seventy-percent Avangard Pils (LHBS can't get Barke atm) and 30% rice. I boiled the flaked rice to make it super dry, then step mashed at 142F for 2hrs to make it super dry, then 158F for one hour (with the recirculation on) to make it super dry, then sparged and lautered for 90min. Full LODO.

It was a long day.

Here's a picture of the runoff...okay, not full, full LODO, but I did put the cap on after the pic.

 

[bracconiere]

well, i just walked up hill! BOTH WAYS! to my mail box to get the methylene blue dye....here is what it shows me right now....this yeast was harvested and kept in the fridge for a couple days....looks like one dead cell so far?

out of you count em! i just weighed out 2 grams of the slurry and diluted it with 4 grams water...mixed up really good and added a couple drops of the dye to it...pretty fun stuff!

but as @McMullan said to me, this going to be ***** data....and i still thinking for the price of a movie ticket...this is way better
then hollywood!

edit: does look like i got kinda some other critters creaping in too though...going to have to see how that problem progesses also....

 

[MaxStout]

What I did for beer yesterday...because I was too tired to write this up last night.

After officially saying that my years-long Panther Piss American adjunct lager project had ended at the start of the year, yesterday (like a dog returning to its sick) I brewed another Panther Piss series beer.

I quickly settled on 10% rice in the core Panther Piss adjunct package, but I always wondered about doing a full rice adjunct package. Yesterday, I brought shame upon the world by bringing Panther Piss Super Dry into the world. Seventy-percent Avangard Pils (LHBS can't get Barke atm) and 30% rice. I boiled the flaked rice to make it super dry, then step mashed at 142F for 2hrs to make it super dry, then 158F for one hour (with the recirculation on) to make it super dry, then sparged and lautered for 90min. Full LODO.

It was a long day.

Here's a picture of the runoff...okay, not full, full LODO, but I did put the cap on after the pic.View attachment 771064

Love the name "panther piss."

I just bottled an adjunct-laden ale that I brewed with 2 lbs. flaked corn and 1 lb. flaked rice. I call it "piss yellow beer."

Never boiled flaked rice like you did, but might have to try that next time. My FG was 1.006 anyway, so it will be plenty crisp.

Keeping the summertime piss beer tradition going.

 

[MaxStout]

On further review, I think we need a new beer category for summer lawnmower beers.

Call it "lawnmower beers."

Doubtful BJCP will get on board for this, but we could.

Make it anything goes for ingredients, color. Just keep it <5% ABV and FG <1.010 or so.

 

[Bramling Cross]

Love the name "panther piss."

That's my Dad's favorite term for beer he doesn't like, which is most beers that don't come from Munich.

Your 2lbs of corn and 1lb of rice is the ratio that I settled on (in a 10lb grist). It's really good! You get plenty of corn flavor and the rice is there to dry it out and keep it refreshing...all the way up to 1.074. Yeah, it's like a N. American Tripple.

I don't think boiling the rice was necessary. I did so because I think Asahi Super Dry is one of the dumbest and funniest beer names out there. I don't know why, but I think "super dry" is funny. So I made everything as super dry as possible yesterday...and yuck, yuck, yucked the whole way to the fermenter.

Was the boiled rice worth it? Not really. Beersmith says I scored 97% mash efficiency. I normally hit 92% on my 60min/30min step mashed adjunct lagers. Five percent mash efficiency is jack squat, in terms of OG into the fermenter. There's lots of ways to get way more efficient, boiling your flaked rice isn't one of them...unless you want your beer to be ***SUPER DRY!!!!!!!***

Snicker, snort.

 

[Bramling Cross]

On further review, I think we need a new beer category for summer lawnmower beers.

Call it "lawnmower beers."

Doubtful BJCP will get on board for this, but we could.

Make it anything goes for ingredients, color. Just keep it <5% ABV and FG <1.010 or so.

Yeah, I could get behind that. I might suggest calling it N. American Summer Beers. There's nothing wrong with Lawnmower Beers, we all know what it means, but it's too established as a term and covers way too much ground. N. American wheat beers, fruit beers, Hefes, Kolsch, Cream Ale, CAP, the various N. American lagers, Golden Ale, Australian Golden Ale maybe even dry examples of UK Summer Ale, etc, they're all "lawnmower beers." The AHA would need something much more narrow to create a "style."

Spit-balling, "A style of beer designed for consumption during hot summers in N. America, emphasizing dryness and a refreshing quality. The grist is not tightly defined and can be any color, provided it is dry and refreshing. Adjuncts are often used (corn, rice, sugar), but not necessary. Hopping can be variable, bitterness and hop flavor are acceptable, provided that they do not detract from the refreshing, quaffable quality of this style. Yeast selection is also variable, but should emphasize the refreshing and quaffable nature of this style."

The problem is this...What's quaffable? What's a good summer guzzler?

I started the Panther Piss series of beers because I'm a native of the Pacific NW that has been stuck living the Mid-Atlantic for over twenty years. It's hot and miserably humid out here during the summer and my old PacNW ale recipes just didn't work out here during July and August.

Eventually, I started reading about the origins of adjunct brewing by immigrant German brewers in the Mississippi and Ohio river valleys and how corn and rice were **not** used as cheap fillers, but, rather, as necessary ingredients to produce clear beer with 6-row as the base malt. At that point I was hooked.

Several years later, like you, I'm thinking there's room for a contemporary style, beyond CAP (or whatever Gordon Strong wants us to call it these days) and N. American adjunct lager.

This is a really, really interesting (for want of a style) "pocket" of brewing to explore. I've had a blast in it and I'm glad to hear you're goofing around in it too.

 

[seatazzz]

I wrote another poem! From personal experience! Iambic pentameter, shemtameter.

Fruit Flies in my Ferment Fridge (an off-the-cuff poem)


Beautiful hefeweizen, bubbling away.
Did I use a blowoff? No way.
It’ll be fine, I said,
With a nod of my head.

This morn when I awoke (late because clock)
I made my way to the brewery to take stock.
What to my wondering eye did appear,
Airlock blown out, and krausen far and near.

Added a blowoff real quick,
And wiped up the krausen, banana-ish and thick.
Thinking I was okay,
To work did I away.

Home again after a long day,
Opened the ferment fridge door in major dismay;
A veritable swarm of flying vinegar makers
Did zoom from my refrigerator!!!

Armed with natural insecticide,
I sprayed every nook and cranny where the little bastards could hide.
A quick glance under the lid,
Showed that none of them hid.

Hanging my head in shame,
Only myself to blame.
Praying to Ninkasi the beer god,
That this batch won’t be nasty and odd.

A message to all;
Before the krausen do fall,
Use a blowoff not airlock,
Or later you may be saying many words that rhyme (kinda) with FOCK.

 

[Bramling Cross]

I haven't read your poem yet, but, oh boy....this is gonna be good!

LMAO already!

Fruit Flies in my Fridge, Brilliant!!!!!

I had much the same experience a week ago today when I discovered that one of the four latches on my Brewbucket had popped when I lowered it into my Brewjacket. Of course, it was a hefewiezen...This would only happen on a Hefeweizen.

I arrived home from work with thick krausen on the lid. No biggie, I thought. Indeed, I thought I had gotten lucky, just a bit of a leak from the new gasket in the center of the lid where the cooling rod enters. It took me a further day and so much runaway krausen to figure out that one of my latches had popped. And that's when it sank in, my brewjacket had soaked through to the hardwood floor.

Oh, something that rhymes with FOCK.

Flies. So many flies.

Thank you, so kindly for your remarkable poem. It was exactly the salve that I needed to start to smile about this shameful experience. I've brewed for over 25-years and I've never had a fermentation leave the fermenter. I was feeling pretty low about that, but your poem makes it all worth while.

Thank you!

 

[MaxStout]

That's my Dad's favorite term for beer he doesn't like, which is most beers that don't come from Munich.

Your 2lbs of corn and 1lb of rice is the ratio that I settled on (in a 10lb grist). It's really good! You get plenty of corn flavor and the rice is there to dry it out and keep it refreshing...all the way up to 1.074. Yeah, it's like a N. American Tripple.

I don't think boiling the rice was necessary. I did so because I think Asahi Super Dry is one of the dumbest and funniest beer names out there. I don't know why, but I think "super dry" is funny. So I made everything as super dry as possible yesterday...and yuck, yuck, yucked the whole way to the fermenter.

Was the boiled rice worth it? Not really. Beersmith says I scored 97% mash efficiency. I normally hit 92% on my 60min/30min step mashed adjunct lagers. Five percent mash efficiency is jack squat, in terms of OG into the fermenter. There's lots of ways to get way more efficient, boiling your flaked rice isn't one of them...unless you want your beer to be ***SUPER DRY!!!!!!!***

Snicker, snort.

Was your dad a Marine? Panther piss seems to be a favorite non-curse among them.

On the "summer lawnmower beer" thing I would go so far as to make it include both lagers and ales. Only requirement is low-ish ABV and dry finish.

Of course, such broad inclusiveness would make the BJCP people's heads asplode, but no reason why this should keep us from having a de facto category of beers we can readily pour down our necks in copious quantities.

If it's easy drinking, it's in like flynn.

I'm only half serious here, but why not?

 

[Sam_92]

On further review, I think we need a new beer category for summer lawnmower beers.

Call it "lawnmower beers."

Doubtful BJCP will get on board for this, but we could.

Make it anything goes for ingredients, color. Just keep it <5% ABV and FG <1.010 or so.

I love this idea! I think it should get it's own thread honestly. I've been brewing a lot more lighter beers this year and would love some advice on adding adjuncts.

 

[Bramling Cross]

Was your dad a Marine? Panther piss seems to be a favorite non-curse among them.

On the "summer lawnmower beer" thing I would go so far as to make it include both lagers and ales. Only requirement is low-ish ABV and dry finish.

Of course, such broad inclusiveness would make the BJCP people's heads asplode, but no reason why this should keep us from having a de facto category of beers we can readily pour down our necks in copious quantities.

If it's easy drinking, it's in like flynn.

I'm only half serious here, but why not?

Not a Marine.

Not sure where he picked that one up, but he uses it liberally. He likes Helles and most beers aren't Helles, so, from his perspective, there's an entire universe of Panther Piss out there.

Regarding ales, hell yeah! Most of the styles I cited are ales, after all. Of course ales are in!

I was spit-balling that initial definition and grossly biased by my Panther Piss project.

Like you said, if you can dump it down your neck in stupid quantities when it's hot enough that your sweat has stopped working, it's in style.

We've done the hard stuff, Gordon. What's keeping you?

 

[Bramling Cross]

I love this idea! I think it should get it's own thread honestly. I've been brewing a lot more lighter beers this year and would love some advice on adding adjuncts.

Do it, I'll be there, and I'll bet Max will be there too.

 

[Bramling Cross]

Damnit, I was trying to write the above note and text at the same time.

I am a failure.

 

[earachemyeye69]

Wish I could help. It’s my first attempt. Well, second I guess. I had luck adding lime peel in the boil once, but I’m planning on using some crystallized lime this time around.

Just kegged a salt and lime Mexican lager where I added fresh lime peel and juice in the last 10 minutes boil. It’s good but I think it lacks lime flavor and next time I’ll dry hop the peel or just add a few drops of extract. Careful with the salt if you add it. The salt comes through pretty strong. 2 tsp in a 5 gallon batch.

 

[earachemyeye69]

Just kegged a salt and lime Mexican lager where I added fresh lime peel and juice in the last 10 minutes boil. It’s good but I think it lacks lime flavor and next time I’ll dry hop the peel or just add a few drops of extract. Careful with the salt if you add it. The salt come through pretty strong. 2 tsp in a 5 gallon batch.

PS, I used the peel from six Thai limes and two tablespoons of juice.

 

[seatazzz]

I haven't read your poem yet, but, oh boy....this is gonna be good!

LMAO already!

Fruit Flies in my Fridge, Brilliant!!!!!

I had much the same experience a week ago today when I discovered that one of the four latches on my Brewbucket had popped when I lowered it into my Brewjacket. Of course, it was a hefewiezen...This would only happen on a Hefeweizen.

I arrived home from work with thick krausen on the lid. No biggie, I thought. Indeed, I thought I had gotten lucky, just a bit of a leak from the new gasket in the center of the lid where the cooling rod enters. It took me a further day and so much runaway krausen to figure out that one of my latches had popped. And that's when it sank in, my brewjacket had soaked through to the hardwood floor.

Oh, something that rhymes with FOCK.

Flies. So many flies.

Thank you, so kindly for your remarkable poem. It was exactly the salve that I needed to start to smile about this shameful experience. I've brewed for over 25-years and I've never had a fermentation leave the fermenter. I was feeling pretty low about that, but your poem makes it all worth while.

Thank you!

Thank you (blushing).

One of the many things I've learned in my years of brewing, is the corollary to RDWHAHB; you need to be able to laugh about your mishaps, or at least see the humor in them. And I like poetry.

 

[earachemyeye69]

The wife says she wants to go look at a rental property and move my brewery out of the house
Sounds like I’m getting a bigger brewery hehehe.

 

[seatazzz]

The wife says she wants to go look at a rental property and move my brewery out of the house
Sounds like I’m getting a bigger brewery hehehe.

Off topic, but your handle just brought me back to the mid-70s and that comedy bit. My sister had it as a 45 record and played it for me a lot. Now I have to go google it. That and the Jaws Parody song by Dickie Goodman.

*edit I had NO idea that Earache my Eye was Cheech & Chong, horey crap!!!!

 

[murphyslaw]

Wrong thread!

 

[grampamark]

Found, and fixed, my C02 leak (bad gas post on a recently filled keg that hadn’t been used for awhile). Not before my 20lb bottle, that had only been in use since February, went dry, unfortunately. Five lb backup bottle to the rescue.

 

[ba-brewer]

Cleaned a couple kegs and filled them up with my strata-galaxy golden ale.

Also brewed a pilsner mosaic smash IPA today. Pitched some of the yeast from the golden ale without crashing it so expect it to take right off.

 

[McMullan]

well, i just walked up hill! BOTH WAYS! to my mail box to get the methylene blue dye....here is what it shows me right now....this yeast was harvested and kept in the fridge for a couple days....looks like one dead cell so far?

out of you count em! i just weighed out 2 grams of the slurry and diluted it with 4 grams water...mixed up really good and added a couple drops of the dye to it...pretty fun stuff!

View attachment 771067

but as @McMullan said to me, this going to be ***** data....and i still thinking for the price of a movie ticket...this is way better
then hollywood!

edit: does look like i got kinda some other critters creaping in too though...going to have to see how that problem progesses also....

I'd run a positive control on the MB, to make sure it's working. Kill some yeast cells. Try diluting the MB more in water.

 

[bracconiere]

Kill some yeast cells.

damn it!!! that a really good idea! they're killing my brain cells, why not take a few of them out! i think i'll do a known boiled 1 gram slurry, with 1 gram fresh...have to do it in the nuker...

add that to what i've done for beer today! and i've been doing things all day for beer, but this is going to be the most fun and at 10pm, probably all i can fit in!

 

[bracconiere]

damn, i thinking nuking them in boiling water they didn't die peacefuly in their sleep.....at least looking at this....

 

[bracconiere]

well i still got time, going to try again for a gentler aproach and autolyse them in isopropyl alcohol...

 

[McMullan]

well i still got time, going to try again for a gentler aproach and autolyse them in isopropyl alcohol...

One or two freeze-thaw cycles is the most humane way.

 

[bracconiere]

i nuked it to 140f.....acidently gave it a full squirt of blue dye.....the white stuff is probably just dust......

 

[bracconiere]

One or two freeze-thaw cycles is the most humane way.

what no chloroform? well it's late....don't think i'm going to be able concentrate on this anymore today...but i still got an hour, what's the kill rate?

you might say humane, but....

 

[bwible]

I love this idea! I think it should get it's own thread honestly. I've been brewing a lot more lighter beers this year and would love some advice on adding adjuncts.

Sounds like a few of us are headed down this road. I got my hands on some Wyeast 2035 American Lager yeast that they finally released at the start of this year. I brewed a pre-pro lager with it and saved off 8 vials of it in a glycerine mixture and I have now frozen them hoping to be able to use it again since that is one of their limited private collection yeasts and I don’t know when they will put it out again. I’m hoping to get 2272 when they release that again. 2272 is supposed to be the old Christian Schmidt strain. I grew up in Phila just a couple miles from the Schmidts brewery and some of my earliest experience with beer was quarts of Schmidts.

Brewing and also buying more lagers and “clean” beers. To each his own, but me, I’m sick to death of seeing hazy beers everywhere that all look like a glass of orange juice and sour beers everywhere being made by intentionally introducing spoilage organisms that I spend good money on PBW and Star San and iodophor to keep away. Or I’m sure somebody somewhere must be making a beer that is hazy AND sour!