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German Helles and maple bourbon porter at the local brewery
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@fourfarthing Golden Perch Saison. Really good looking orange tinged color, nice and clear. I don’t get oxidized. There are some phenols on the nose, but not too much. Nice prickly carbonation. I really like it. Going to the saison guidelines, I get some weight on the finish, which at first I thought was under attenuation. But as I drink it, I think it’s dry. Maybe some adjuncts or spices?

How do you compare the phenols in this to the ones in my saffron tripel (which I find to be too much). I’m wondering if it’s a function of being overly critical of your own beer. This was really good. As was the ESB.

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@fourfarthing Golden Perch Saison. Really good looking orange tinged color, nice and clear. I don’t get oxidized. There are some phenols on the nose, but not too much. Nice prickly carbonation. I really like it. Going to the saison guidelines, I get some weight on the finish, which at first I thought was under attenuation. But as I drink it, I think it’s dry. Maybe some adjuncts or spices?

How do you compare the phenols in this to the ones in my saffron tripel (which I find to be too much). I’m wondering if it’s a function of being overly critical of your own beer. This was really good. As was the ESB.

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I actually think I picked up some extra phenols rather than oxidation and today was a bad bottle as the last one I had seemed great. Would say the ESB went south the last month or two in a bad way, but you likely have a point on self criticism.
 
@fourfarthing Golden Perch Saison. Really good looking orange tinged color, nice and clear. I don’t get oxidized. There are some phenols on the nose, but not too much. Nice prickly carbonation. I really like it. Going to the saison guidelines, I get some weight on the finish, which at first I thought was under attenuation. But as I drink it, I think it’s dry. Maybe some adjuncts or spices?

How do you compare the phenols in this to the ones in my saffron tripel (which I find to be too much). I’m wondering if it’s a function of being overly critical of your own beer. This was really good. As was the ESB.

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Only adjunct was honey. Not a mead guy so not sure what pandoras box that opened.
 
Change brewers? Went there visiting SLO a few years back and beers were so-so but service was terrible/rude. Of course, will try again... possibly this summer.

OT- milk, whole, organic, on the rocks

Wow. Sorry you had a bad experience there. We've only been out here in CA a few years but during that time I've found their beers on par, if not better than, Firestone Walker's standard lineup (non- barrel aged beers). They've won several GABF medals for their house IPA and Pale Ale. Let me know next time you're in town and the beers are on me. Can't lose that way.
 
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Much needed right now. Ran Ethernet cabling from my office on the second floor to the basement, then across the basement back up to the first floor living room. Speeds are where they should be. These power line adapters are nice in theory but the killed my speed, about an 80% loss with them.
 
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